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Joseph Nelson Investment Management Ltd., Chester?
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js.b1
2011-03-11 14:53:37 UTC
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Anyone know if they are still trading?

I have a telephone number, but it just rings and rings.
brightside S9
2011-03-12 09:39:20 UTC
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Post by js.b1
Anyone know if they are still trading?
I have a telephone number, but it just rings and rings.
According to http://www.companiesintheuk.co.uk/ltd/joseph-nelson
thier HO is in Northwich.
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brightside S9
js.b1
2011-03-12 13:36:32 UTC
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Post by js.b1
Anyone know if they are still trading?
I have a telephone number, but it just rings and rings.
According tohttp://www.companiesintheuk.co.uk/ltd/joseph-nelson
thier HO is in Northwich.
Turns out they changed their name twice (1997, 2005).

They are now called:
CLOSE WEALTH MANAGEMENT LIMITED
NELSON HOUSE
GADBROOK BUSINESS PARK
GADBROOK ROAD NORTHWICH
CHESHIRE
CW9 7TN

Thanks.
Charlie
2011-03-12 17:53:41 UTC
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Post by js.b1
Anyone know if they are still trading?
I have a telephone number, but it just rings and rings.
According to the register on the FSA website, they are no longer
authorised as of 29 June 2009.
js.b1
2011-03-14 15:56:26 UTC
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Post by Charlie
According to the register on the FSA website, they are no longer
authorised as of 29 June 2009.
Interesting.

Nelson in 1987 lost about 50%, basically £42k became £22k, then moved
to more conservative investments. So I always wondered how they did in
2008.

Nelson's approach was logical albeit a little childish in names - they
had a 3 box solution, Box-1 being cash, Box-2 being income, Box-3
being stocks which was either growth defensive or aggressive. The
problem is they were poor advisers at the customer level - in terms of
making people understand a) stock outperformance can result in crashes
and b) stocks must be added to continually over a long time horizon
rather than "created then walked away from". If you can only "create"
a stock holding you must have discipline and building it half, then
phase the rest in over 7-10yrs. The net result is people tended to
draw down the Cash & Income "boxes", relying on the stock one to "make
the withdrawals back" or worse spend in anticipation of them making
the losses back. Then, of course, when a blowup happened people sold
at the bottom and moved back to Cash & Income as they could not afford
to lose any more.

Hence the typical 1987 result of 50% loss through less than ideal
stock selection (that was Defensive so no idea what Aggressive would
have been like), being an actual 50% loss at the portfolio level.

A lot of financial advice is best given AFTER you have seen their
credit-card, loan, current account situation :-) Indeed it is perhaps
best to start coming through the latter before you see a figure and
drawing up asset-allocation ideals.

Will contact them (whatever they are) shortly just in case they have
1985-1990 statements. I doubt very much, but you never know -
sometimes they exist in an archive or document scanned in.
l***@gmail.com
2017-04-12 12:57:27 UTC
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Hi, Just going through my deceased fathers things and have come across 2 certificates for investments totalling almost 20,000. Anyone know where I would start to see where this may be???
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