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Who values BT (British Telecum) Shiit investments?
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Who values BT (British Telecum) Shiit investments?
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Offcum values BT (British Telecum) Shiit investments.

Offcum are experts at protecting BT shiit investments by
illegally holding shiit's shares and working on behalf
or BT selling copper adsl to government instead of
full fibre internet at 1/20th the price for 1gbit links.

Openroach values BT Shiit for investments.

Openroach are experts at giving customers a shiit service
and blow jobs at double price, double effort and half the
productivity of everyone else.


If Government or a local council or a business
asked BT (British Telecum) or Offcon or Openroach
a price for internet, they would have lied to your
face in full.

If Government or a local council or a business
asked BT (British Telecum) or Offcon or Openroach
a price for broadband, they would have told you the truth.

What is the difference between asking the price
for 10mbit broadband and asking the price for industry
standard full fibre internet node cheapest
option connecting up a country with best bandwidth
to price ratio?

Internet can be provisioned at 1/20th the price of
broadband. Broadband, shiit's investment, services
can only be delivered with copper.
It requires electrical cable, brick lined tunnels,
water ingress protection, lightening protection,
deeper digs, telegraph poles for distribution,
ADSL modems for every line, fibre modems at each cabinet,
complex machinery for provisioning different upload
and download speed.

While internet can be provisioned with fibre
at 1/20th the price because the fibres don't need
brick lined tunnels and doesn't any complex modems
or machinery for complex upload/download speed controls.
500 fibres can be had from about $2 per meter.
Its cheaper than copper. And you can install the entire
cable in one step instead of asking openroach to
install an empty tube and then blow job a fibre through
that *fscking* empty tube - effectively double the work
and half the productivity and shiit for service while
everyone else install once by installing the fibre cable directly.

And why is Hammond giving away £3000 per business
for full fibre internet to Openroach and BT
when that is normally installed for £250 to £500 by
other companies?

Isn't that called fraud if other companies
are already doing it while BT offcum openroach
can't do it?

And why is government not asking telecom
companies and offcum the asking price for industry
standard full fibre internet 1gbit node cheapest
option connecting up a country with best bandwidth
to price ratio and instead ask the price
of 10mbit ADSL which is 20x expensive than 1gbit fibre?
I can understand if the powers in government that
do all the asking are BT (British Telecum) Shiit
shareholders seeking value for their shiit
investment. But that is called fraud.
Definitely not serving UK brexshit plc.

Even 3rd world country like Azerbaijan has
double the mobile internet speed.
(Among numerous other countries.)
That means their telecom masts are all fibred up.
While in the UK that can't happen when Openroach
BT Offcum are holding their hands out for
£6000 pounds install fee and £6000 annual charges.
All the while 800,000 substantial rural areas
are fibred up with 1gbit services for under £50
per month in UK. So why can't the mobile operators get
their £50 per month gigabit fibre?
Because BT's shiite investors with their shiit
for brains 10mbit ADSL junk conning government
and committing daily fraud.

Japan already has 97% pure fibre.
If brexshit plc is going to compete, it needs
more than deregulation. The best option
is to dump BT shiit investor concerns
and hand all the contracts out to full fibre
companies at the going rate of no more than
£250 to £500 per connection and £50 per month.
Shiit's investors will scream and fsck off and die
but you got better internet for it while
shiite investors have got shiit in their face
for delaying UK plc.



BT (British Telecum) Openroach giving double blow jobs with fibre
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<blow> <blow> <blow> ... <job> <job> <job>!!

That is the sound of bhtee offcum openroach krone tool
master baiters installing fibre.

Double the price, half the productivity, half the efficiency,
and twice the manpower with Bhtee Openroach approach.

Openroach are already missed their own deadlines for rolling
out fibre.

The clue is here is that no one uses these out dated
practices except BT offcum openroach.

How low can these super thick management trolls get?

It cost about £1 to £2 per meter for a couple of hundred
core fibre. So why does BT openroach offcum trolls
install an empty fibre tube and then spend double time
blowing one fibre at a time through the empty tube
with a blow job?

May be they miss krone tool master bation and
now resort to giving customers blow jobs on site?

Double the time, double the effort, double the cost
and very few fibres get installed.

No one does this.

Everyone just installs once the 500+ fibre bundle cores
and leave plenty of spare capacity for cabling
up the rest of Brexshitting UK plc at a lower cost than
install tube and then fibre one fibre at a time.

The fsking p ricks at offcum BT (British Telecum) Openroach
should be relieved of their franchise and exclusive
access to markets and ducts with immediate effect.

All the street ducts should be confiscated by an agnostic
body and charged according to per cm cross sectional
area. So if you install a empty tube 1cm cross section
to blow one fibre, you fsck yourself in the rear
when someone else installs a 1cm cable with 500 fibres
for the same price and connect up 500 more customers
than management trolls and their blow jobs ever will.

This kind of telecum malpractice means no one in the City
is ever going to connected with high speed fibre optic internet
because every tall rise building now needs something
as large as Eurotunnel to cable up with hollow tubes
and one fibre at a time being run through them with a blow job.

What a fskcing mess!!



Offcum BT bins all Mobile Ads costing hundreds of millions
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Offcum BT (British Telecum) Openroach VM et al
bins Mobile Ads costing hundreds of millions of dollars to
make because there aren't any mobile masts to distribute
these ads to mobile phone users while they are travelling
in trains, buses, underground tube, taxis etc.

Transpurt for Londonistan is proud telling Christmas shoppers
and foreign visitors to go and stuff it as customers
see connection lost signals
and buffering rings go round and round and round..

In China no such problem which leaves all China tourists bemused
as to why UK has become such a third rate stone age country.

Transpurt for Londinistan can't afford the £6000 install fee for fibre
and 6000 pound per annum fee for each and every *FSCKING* fibre
while companies like B4RN, Hyperoptic etc are charging under
£50 per month for the same 1 gbit fibre service.

The Mayor of Londinistan is wahahahaking off about Boris
when he should be whahahahanking off about BT, Offcum, Openroach
et al who collectively between them has left Londinistan
as the most disconnected city in the world with no pure fibre network.

Even in near third world countries like China, there is no
disconnection as you travel inside big buildings, go into
the underground, travel the tubes, and take overground trains
and travel hundreds of miles.

Even Paris, Londonistani's closest competitor has full fibre
for all its 2 million residents.

Offcum needs to be broken up because the City's
PSD2 is not happening either because again there
are no mobile phone masts and fibre connections to fibre
routers available despite bwanks spending billions getting
it ready and dozens of start ups are spending all their money to make
it all work on mobile phone apps.

Come Christmas, Boxing Day shopping, and New Year shopping,
all the ads that are meant to be delivered to Brexshitting mobile users
will not be delivered while connections are lost 2 hours of the day
average and buffering rings go round and round for millions
of customers for average 2 hours a day while they sit in
buses, taxis, underground tube and trains trying to place orders.

The problem is unfixable for Christmas in 4 weeks time.

Lost sales and ad revenue is going to be in the billions for this
coming Christmas - far more than cost of sacking
the lot at Offcum and replacing it with full fibre directors from B4RN,
Hyperoptic, Cityfibre etc.




Offcum BT lose 1 billion Black Friday sales for retailers
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Offcum BT (British Telecum) Openroach VM et al lose 1 billion of
Black Friday sales for retailers.

Retailers are saying *FSCKING* thanks a lot to the telecum retards.

A lot of people sat 2 or more hours today watching
connection lost, and buffering rings going round and round and round
in tubes, trains, and buses wondering why they can't click on
a simple bargain order while in China you can do this on moving trains,
moving underground tube trains, on buses in towns and villages
and anywhere else where there is civilization.

All the Lards Ladies Pooliticians doing the

1. Stand up fastly
2. Troll
3. Sit down fastly

routine in UK could not deregulate and abolish Offcum
to save Black Friday. Being comatozed on

1. Stand up fastly
2. Troll
3. Sit down fastly

routines, they have no incentive to change anything when
country is sinking to lowest ever productivity and instead
parade themselves on camera for attention talking
up Brexshit according to what their hallucinations tell
them is important. So expect all of Christmas and New Year
to be spent watching more connection lost and buffering rings
going round and round and round thanks to the pooliticians.

While Oxford street gets the full anti-terror treatment today,
there are not enough cameras to relay the signals
because it all requires fibre optic signals and at £6000 install
fee + £6000 per annum for line rental it ain't
gonna make security happen. At least not according to offcum.
Not even while B4RN, Hyperoptic, Citifibre etc are installing
1 gibit fibre for under £50 a month and have cabled up 800,000+
homes already including the most remote villages and houses
by B4RN for £30 a month for 1gbit fibre.

PSD2 is not happening either because it requires a lot of
mobile phone masts connected with fibre to fibre optic routers.
Which ain't gonna happen at £6000 per install and £6000 per
annum fake fees. So billions being spent by the bwanks and all
the startup companies into new PSD2 services and apps will
not be getting any new mobile customers using it.

The fake fibre epidemic gripping UK is driven by Offcum regulator
that allows people to be conned by BT VM Openroach Pusnet Ski
into believing they got
the best when in reality they got fake fibre.

A gamer buying £1000 gaming card, and £2000
OLED monitor and £1500 gaming PC to play games ain't gonna
get anything more serious than buffering rings going round and
round and round.. They gonna lose their game to some retard in
Paris or near third world country like Portugal where
it is all fibre running 1 gbit easy.




PSD2 - BT (British Telecum) Offcum Openroach sez FSCKIT you ain't having it
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This fsckit and you ain't havin it management troll approach to
pure fibre, gigabit fibre and fibre internet by Offcum and its babies
BT (British Telecum) Openroach VM etc now threatens PSD2.

Payment Services Directive 2 liberates payment information
so that companies other than banks can do your transactions from
ALL mobiles and browsers anywhere on the internet.
Numerous small app business will now be able to do the same
things that bwanks can do at a fraction of the cost
through your account that only bwanks
previously allowed themselves to do to grab hefty fees
as no one else were allowed to touch that data.

This of course requires all mobiles to have connections to
a mast with a fibre link to gigabit routers or the
infrastructure won't work.

It requires small businesses that offer these
services to have gigabit fibre optic links to process payments
and host their developer servers and tools.


BT (British Telecum) Offcum Openroach sez FSCKIT you ain't having it.


QUUAAAAACCCKkkkkkkhhh.....!!!


BT (British Telecum) Offcum Openroach et al are going to fsck you
from behind until you love them.

And give up PSD2 because you ain't having pure fibre internet.

All the efforts of PSD2 by bwankers and Fintech IoT businesses
are toast because there is no fibre in UK.

In Paris, all 2 million citizens have gigabit fibre internet.

So with Brexshit, you may as well move to France then.

All those things said by the Chancellor Hammond in his budget
speech yesterday about running towards change is for the
birds, the bees and pooliticians. Not for BT (Britsh Telecum)
Offcum, VM, Openroach etc selling fake fibre.






Offconn's Bhtee Telecum fsckies have fsckied again
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https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2017/11/competition-tribunal-upholds-dark-fibre-uk-market-definitions-ruling.html


Brexshit is around the corner when we all need 10gbit internet
to every home to compete in the world and make money
butt, bhtee fsckies and bhtee fsckied insiders in offconn
have done it again.

"Ofcom’s flawed approach was unduly fixated on a ‘make do and mend’
strategy of squeezing economic value out of BT’s existing legacy network, "


WHAT THE *FSCK* DO OFFCONN THINK THEY ARE DOING?????????????

The *fscking* lot of them need to be sacked immediately!!!

They are *NOT* employees of Bhtee to be *fscking* about with
UK telecom market and helping Bhtee.

They are *NOT* employees of Bhtee to be *fscking* in courts
on behalf of Bhtee.

Political action required.

All the companies in the City and their global competitiveness
have been sold down the river because of
Bhtee and Offconn helping each other illegally.


Fake fibre sold by VM BT Offconn Openroach no good for gaming and social
media
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Gigaclear, Cityfibre and Hyperoptic have all complained to Advertising
Standards Authority (ASA), but they still no action since 2008.

https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2017/06/full-fibre-isps-call-asa-stop-misleading-uk-fibre-broadband-adverts.html

BT (British Telecum) offers similar upload speed to VM on 200mbit
service, but neither come close to similar priced products
from Gigaclear, Cityfibre and Hyperoptic with up to 1 gbit upload
speed enough for gaming, fast social media uploads, and for
whole family to use at the same time without compromising each
other's Internet experience.

The City is being overcharged and conned as well.
Their entire infrastructure is being overcharged and crippled
by BT (Brititsh Telecum) and encumbants.
City trading is 1000% crippled by slow internet
because British Telecum and Openroach don't know how
to install fibre with FPGA routers.

B4N has cabled up 20,000+ rural connection
and is offering down to £30 per month for 1gbit in rural
communities which shirt and tie fscktarts like VM and BT
(British Telecum) don't know how to cable up.

With the help of Offconn, these encumbants are charging
government £4000 per install when the actual costs
are below £250 per install for fibre.

There needs to be separate investigation with reps
from Gigaclear, Citifibre, Hyperoptic, B4RN etc
in the panel holding an parliamentary inquiry into
why the encumbants VM BT (British Telecum), Openroach
and Offconn have all been in it together to con
the UK government out of billions for services
they did not deliver.



I managed to install 1gbit pure fibre in the home for $41.15
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$12.11 30m fiber optic cable - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-Shipping-SM-SX-3mm-30M-9-125um-30-Meters-Fiber-Optic-Jumper-Cable-SC-UPC/32619865490.html
$29.04 2 x ethernet to fiber - media converter -
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/HTB-GS-03-A-B-Gigabit-Fiber-Optical-Media-Converter-1000Mbps-Single-Mode-Single-Fiber-SC/32450387383.html

30m of pure fibre - only one required as the fibre media converter
is bidirectional and operates at 1Gbits down the single cable.

The fibre is SC-SC connector.

The media converter has SC connector - connect only to
the TX (and ignore RX marked socket) on both transceivers with single
SC-SC connector.

Connect PC to one transceiver ethernet socket, and other transceiver to
the ethernet switch and hey presto, you got 30M fibre linked
optically! :)

It took me all of 3 minutes to get it operational! :)

If you tried to do this about a year or more ago,
you would be out of pocket by a couple of hundred quid.
Today you can do it for £30 - which is just unbelievable.

Cables 100m, 300m and 500m available to link
PCs in garden sheds or extensions back to the switch or
to a router.

If you are linking farm houses together, neighbours
together in a village or linking offices in
a compound together, the procedure is effortlessly
the same. If you can, make your own cables with a bit of practice:

cleaver -$62- https://www.aliexpress.com/item/9-In-1-Fiber-Optic-FTTH-Tool-Kit-with-FC-6S-Fiber-Cleaver-and-Optical-Power/32647289225.html
sleeves - 5 cents - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1000Pcs-OD2-4-45mm-Fiber-Optic-Fusion-Splice-Protection-Sleeves-Fiber-Cable-Protector-Heat-Shrink-Tube/32732857639.html
gigabit transceiver: 20km/1000BASE-LX - $17
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/SFP-Fiber-Optic-Transceiver-1000BASE-LX-SFP-MINI-GBIC-modules-Compatible-for-CISCO-glc-lh-sm/710717277.html
64 way splitter $85 - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/SC-1X64-PLC-Singlemode-Fiber-Optical-splitter-FTTH-PLC-Steel-tube-type-FBT-PLC-optical-fiber/32476975506.html
fibre - --$375/km https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Fiber-Cable-Multimode-2core-Indoor-fiber-optic-cable-Duplex-Zipcord-PCV-jacket-3-0mm-Orange/793795646.html
Fiber junction box - $7 https://www.aliexpress.com/item/KELUSHI-wholesale-FTTH-FTTH-fiber-panel-fiber-optic-terminal-junction-box-86-information-panels-86-Desktop/32598550478.html

If you are linking together ethernet equipment on different
phases (such as large buildings, or multi-storey offices)
then fibre is the way to go to prevent electrical signals
between the different phases damaging equipment (because
the net voltage difference between the phases can be
415V instead of 240V, and all of that meets in your switch
or router or a PC which is terrible news if there is
a problem).

The world is changing - even though I got fibre in the
home, and live in London, there is nowhere to plug
it into on the street, while the rest of the country,
at least 3% of it has fibre, along with many cities,
for under £50 a month, but not London.

Its an absolute terrible crime what offconn has
done to London. They should hang their heads
in shame and go dunk themselves in river Thames.
Hopefully the replacements are pro-fiber and pure
fibre company directors with a vested interest
in ensuring their under £50 a month fibre companies
are cleared to expand into London at
maximum possible pace.



Paris gets FTTH to all its 2 million inhabitants - Nothing for London
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Sacra bleau!

Paris now has over 2 million FTTH 1 gigabit symmetric DSL (equal upload
and download speed) but London has NOTHING.

A big thank you goes out to *FSCKTARDS* at offconn for being
the vehicle for this.

We need names in front of TV instead fcktards going into hiding and
get out there explaining why Londoners (all 7 million of them, more than 10%
of
UK population concentrated into one place) cannot have their
FTTH 1 gigabit symmetric DSL connection with equal upload and
download speeds starting at £30 per month to £50 per month
while 3% of the country already has it from the likes of
B4RN, Hyperoptic, Gigaclear, FibreCity etc., and other countries
and big cities like Paris that are competitors have fully cabled up FTTH.
In Sweden you got 30 providers per city while there are zero
providers in London.

So why can't these fsktards at offconn resign and let some
other authority be set up to that are pro-fibre and let Londoners
have fibre to the home?

It pushes up the value of London by at leas 2 billion pounds.
And each and every city can add the same value now that
we are brexshitting and have to have this technology to be
competitive.

All it requires is some trolls to be spanked and sacked in
Offconn, and replaced with pro-fibre interest commercial
managers and bob is your uncle - value of UK goes up by
at least 50 billion when 25 cities and towns get cabled up
with fibre.


Angiewireless rolling out 10gbit fibre
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https://www.angiewireless.co.uk/your-city/

Bhtee VM Openroach all shiitting in their pants
and master baiting even faster with their
krone tool master bation nation tools.

These Bhtee VM Openroach and their racketeering
protection organization offconn don't use 1% of
a gigabit internet connection delivering their pone collection
traffic and teeveee looped box set collection traffic.

Most of this looped teevee is not even watched
because more than 50% of the people on the internet
prefer to watch youtube and the like :)

Bhtee has no understanding of this reality as they go all out
thieving pensioners to fund Bhtee teevee,
and VM even less charging more every day for content
that is unwatchable with nearly 30 minutes of ads per
30 minutes of looped videos. Its easier to watch youtube :)

And gigabit fibre upload speeds are same as download speeds
because its a hundred times cheaper to do it that way,
which means streaming your work for millions to watch
or uploading content in a fraction of the time compared
to Bhtee VM networks that takes several hours to upload a video.

So what are they to do with 10gbit fibre companies
that have already achieved massive roll out
across the globe?

Are they going to sell all their assets
and be the 0.1% customers of these 10gbit companies now?

They have no choice but to sell their phone copper network
and teevee cable network for scrap and become the 0.1% customers
of 10gbit fibre companies.

Fibre costs 100th the price to lay down because their
ducts can be buried 200mm to 1m below the surface.
These ducts don't need strength as there is no electricity,
gas, water or sewage that can spill out if they got dug up
which requires strong ducts to be erected.

A small team can lay 2km of fibre network every day.
The cost of cabling up the entire UK is £6.5 billion,
and revenues first year is £15 billion minimum,
enough to pay it all back.

The retail costs of equipment now ridiculously low (wholesale cheaper):

cleaver -$62- https://www.aliexpress.com/item/9-In-1-Fiber-Optic-FTTH-Tool-Kit-with-FC-6S-Fiber-Cleaver-and-Optical-Power/32647289225.html

sleeves - 5 cents - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1000Pcs-OD2-4-45mm-Fiber-Optic-Fusion-Splice-Protection-Sleeves-Fiber-Cable-Protector-Heat-Shrink-Tube/32732857639.html

gigabit transceiver: 20km/1000BASE-LX - $17
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/SFP-Fiber-Optic-Transceiver-1000BASE-LX-SFP-MINI-GBIC-modules-Compatible-for-CISCO-glc-lh-sm/710717277.html

64 way splitter $85 - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/SC-1X64-PLC-Singlemode-Fiber-Optical-splitter-FTTH-PLC-Steel-tube-type-FBT-PLC-optical-fiber/32476975506.html

fibre - --$375/km https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Fiber-Cable-Multimode-2core-Indoor-fiber-optic-cable-Duplex-Zipcord-PCV-jacket-3-0mm-Orange/793795646.html

Fiber junction box - $7 https://www.aliexpress.com/item/KELUSHI-wholesale-FTTH-FTTH-fiber-panel-fiber-optic-terminal-junction-box-86-information-panels-86-Desktop/32598550478.html

If you send your buyers to China and source all the kit directly,
you can get it much cheaper by the container load.

Your container may cost £2000, but you can bring across £200,000 pounds
worth of stuff
and be making £1 million by the end of a few months.
The only things that hold everyone back is the local councils that
are hell bent pricks on wheels catering to offconn, bhtee and VM interest
and requiring 50 miles of paperwork for 5 miles of fibre.

If you elect to get rid of them and replace it with
fibre friendly councillors in elections 2 months, then
who knows, you could have gigabit symmetric fibre before the
end of the year :)

70% of UK businesses and farms are worried about not getting
fibre into their premises. Bhttee offconn VM Openroach have
no plans to deliver £50 1 gigabit symmetric fibre to the home by 2020
despite 3% of UK households having it wired by non encumbants
like Hyperoptic, Gigaclear, B4RN, Cityfibre, Angiewireless and so on.

So smart alecs with businesses to run and employees to pay
need to push out the unfriendly types from government
and councils and get their fibre friendly councillors into office asap.


Bhtee VM accidentally leak their FTTP equipment prices
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Not.

So I'm setting up BhteeVM_Leeks_WebShite.com web with retail price
list for these items (wholesale cheaper):

64 way splitter $85 - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/SC-1X64-PLC-Singlemode-Fiber-Optical-splitter-FTTH-PLC-Steel-tube-type-FBT-PLC-optical-fiber/32476975506.html

fibre - --$375/km https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Fiber-Cable-Multimode-2core-Indoor-fiber-optic-cable-Duplex-Zipcord-PCV-jacket-3-0mm-Orange/793795646.html

cleaver -$62- https://www.aliexpress.com/item/9-In-1-Fiber-Optic-FTTH-Tool-Kit-with-FC-6S-Fiber-Cleaver-and-Optical-Power/32647289225.html

sleeves - 5 cents - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1000Pcs-OD2-4-45mm-Fiber-Optic-Fusion-Splice-Protection-Sleeves-Fiber-Cable-Protector-Heat-Shrink-Tube/32732857639.html

gigabit transceiver: 20km/1000BASE-LX - $17
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/SFP-Fiber-Optic-Transceiver-1000BASE-LX-SFP-MINI-GBIC-modules-Compatible-for-CISCO-glc-lh-sm/710717277.html

The best way to build routers is to hire FPGA engineers and build the
routers yourself from FPGA and scale up
rapidly
by building copies of own boards.

Otherwise have to purchase say a Cisco router upward £30,000.
Instead pay FPGA engineer £60,000 for 6 months to create as many FPGA boards
as you need for routers.

Examples of what can be done:
https://www.xes-inc.com/products/fpgas/xpedite2402/
https://www.broadcom.com/optical_fpga

IoD calls for 10Gbit fibre
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35681475

Anyone can get into fibre as the trenches are shallow (less than 1m deep)
and carry no electricity - farmer's wifey has done it! :)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-37974267

Farmer's wifey runs pure fibre.
And delivers 1 gigabit fibre symmetric DSL with equal upload and download
speeds
at prices around 30 pounds per month. Bhtee and VM are choking on it and
master baiting
with their krone tools as fast as they can.

So when Bhtee charge 6000 pounds per year for their 1gbit service when we
know their
equipment costs are next to nothing now.
They need to pay all the customers this money back because it is illegal
to overcharge and kidnap all that money to fund subsidies for bhtee teevee
which they have been doing illegally for a long time.


Bhtee and VM can't even use 1% of the capacity with their teeevee and phone
services.
They could instead ask B4RN to install gigabit fibre for them and become
their 1% customer and still everyone will make money.

So when Bhtee charge 6000 pounds per year for their 1gbit service, they
need to be told it must reflect costs as described above,
and any overcharging should be treated like PPI mis-selling
and needs to be paid back to customer from investor profit.

The regulators are in cahoots with Bhtee VM and should be got rid of
and replaced by pure fibre companies and reps.

It could be at least 10 years before bhteee and vm pay back
their over charged customers.

With real prices out in the open for FTTP kit, anyone can
go buy the kit and start laying fibre and make their own
companies. The only way to encourage startups is to deregulate.

With such low FTTP equipment costs,
its not difficult to see why companies like
Talk Talk is investing 5 million pounds
in Yorkshire to wire up 20,000 homes.
Revenue is easily 1 million pounds a month.
Everything paid for in under a year potentially.


Bhtee VM fails 2020 open market review
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Bhtee and VM fail 2020 open market review to deliver
1Gbit symmetric DSL fibre to premises FTTP for £50 in a test
of free market.

By year 2020 no one in Bhtee or VM will deliver FTTP service
in UK at £50 per month.

This is despite Hyperoptic, Gigaclear, B4RN and many others
delivering 2% of UK infrastructure on 1Gbit symmetric DSL FTTP today.

Councils in England Wales Scotland and Northern Ireland warned
not to deal with Bhtee and VM roping them into expensive out
dated technology being peddled by the likes of VM and Bhtee
that are thin on facts and loose on professional delivery.
Local council and government funding should be given priority
to gigabit pure fibre optic companies delivering minimum 1gbit FTTP
symmetric DSL services capped at 50 pounds retail, noting the average
service provider is able to deliver it at under £30 per month.

All tax payer funding to the likes of Bhttee and VM should be stopped
immediately in favour of pure fibre companies.
The market is expected to be dominated by fibre
companies installing fibre in 1 meter shallow dug plastic pipes
as they don't carry electric cables which would otherwise require
deeper tunnels and stronger ducts causing extensive disruption.
Cumpanies like Bhtee and VM that use less than 1% of the internet
with their telephony and teevee data would become the 1% customers
of the new fibre companies.

Local councils and regulators should pressure Bhtee and VM to remove all
their unnecessary copper from their ducts with incentives such as fines
and sell it for scrap and recycling, and switch to using pure fibre
providers to deliver their services to UK customers.
BurfordTJustice
2017-12-22 12:29:05 UTC
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Stay in school little gay boi.


"7" <***@enemygadgets.com> wrote in message news:***@mid.individual.net...


:Telecum) Shiit
7
2017-12-22 13:27:33 UTC
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Talk about shiite and burpy turns up working the newsgroups for money.
Where did it all go wrong for you troll?

Still you must learn to weep like all trolls by reading the poost again:



Who values BT (British Telecum) Shiit investments?
--------------------------------------------------

Offcum values BT (British Telecum) Shiit investments.

Offcum are experts at protecting BT shiit investments by
illegally holding shiit's shares and working on behalf
or BT selling copper adsl to government instead of
full fibre internet at 1/20th the price for 1gbit links.

Openroach values BT Shiit for investments.

Openroach are experts at giving customers a shiit service
and blow jobs at double price, double effort and half the
productivity of everyone else.


If Government or a local council or a business
asked BT (British Telecum) or Offcon or Openroach
a price for internet, they would have lied to your
face in full.

If Government or a local council or a business
asked BT (British Telecum) or Offcon or Openroach
a price for broadband, they would have told you the truth.

What is the difference between asking the price
for 10mbit broadband and asking the price for industry
standard full fibre internet node cheapest
option connecting up a country with best bandwidth
to price ratio?

Internet can be provisioned at 1/20th the price of
broadband. Broadband, shiit's investment, services
can only be delivered with copper.
It requires electrical cable, brick lined tunnels,
water ingress protection, lightening protection,
deeper digs, telegraph poles for distribution,
ADSL modems for every line, fibre modems at each cabinet,
complex machinery for provisioning different upload
and download speed.

While internet can be provisioned with fibre
at 1/20th the price because the fibres don't need
brick lined tunnels and doesn't any complex modems
or machinery for complex upload/download speed controls.
500 fibres can be had from about $2 per meter.
Its cheaper than copper. And you can install the entire
cable in one step instead of asking openroach to
install an empty tube and then blow job a fibre through
that *fscking* empty tube - effectively double the work
and half the productivity and shiit for service while
everyone else install once by installing the fibre cable directly.

And why is Hammond giving away £3000 per business
for full fibre internet to Openroach and BT
when that is normally installed for £250 to £500 by
other companies?

Isn't that called fraud if other companies
are already doing it while BT offcum openroach
can't do it?

And why is government not asking telecom
companies and offcum the asking price for industry
standard full fibre internet 1gbit node cheapest
option connecting up a country with best bandwidth
to price ratio and instead ask the price
of 10mbit ADSL which is 20x expensive than 1gbit fibre?
I can understand if the powers in government that
do all the asking are BT (British Telecum) Shiit
shareholders seeking value for their shiit
investment. But that is called fraud.
Definitely not serving UK brexshit plc.

Even 3rd world country like Azerbaijan has
double the mobile internet speed.
(Among numerous other countries.)
That means their telecom masts are all fibred up.
While in the UK that can't happen when Openroach
BT Offcum are holding their hands out for
£6000 pounds install fee and £6000 annual charges.
All the while 800,000 substantial rural areas
are fibred up with 1gbit services for under £50
per month in UK. So why can't the mobile operators get
their £50 per month gigabit fibre?
Because BT's shiite investors with their shiit
for brains 10mbit ADSL junk conning government
and committing daily fraud.

Japan already has 97% pure fibre.
If brexshit plc is going to compete, it needs
more than deregulation. The best option
is to dump BT shiit investor concerns
and hand all the contracts out to full fibre
companies at the going rate of no more than
£250 to £500 per connection and £50 per month.
Shiit's investors will scream and fsck off and die
but you got better internet for it while
shiite investors have got shiit in their face
for delaying UK plc.



BT (British Telecum) Openroach giving double blow jobs with fibre
-----------------------------------------------------------------

<blow> <blow> <blow> ... <job> <job> <job>!!

That is the sound of bhtee offcum openroach krone tool
master baiters installing fibre.

Double the price, half the productivity, half the efficiency,
and twice the manpower with Bhtee Openroach approach.

Openroach are already missed their own deadlines for rolling
out fibre.

The clue is here is that no one uses these out dated
practices except BT offcum openroach.

How low can these super thick management trolls get?

It cost about £1 to £2 per meter for a couple of hundred
core fibre. So why does BT openroach offcum trolls
install an empty fibre tube and then spend double time
blowing one fibre at a time through the empty tube
with a blow job?

May be they miss krone tool master bation and
now resort to giving customers blow jobs on site?

Double the time, double the effort, double the cost
and very few fibres get installed.

No one does this.

Everyone just installs once the 500+ fibre bundle cores
and leave plenty of spare capacity for cabling
up the rest of Brexshitting UK plc at a lower cost than
install tube and then fibre one fibre at a time.

The fsking p ricks at offcum BT (British Telecum) Openroach
should be relieved of their franchise and exclusive
access to markets and ducts with immediate effect.

All the street ducts should be confiscated by an agnostic
body and charged according to per cm cross sectional
area. So if you install a empty tube 1cm cross section
to blow one fibre, you fsck yourself in the rear
when someone else installs a 1cm cable with 500 fibres
for the same price and connect up 500 more customers
than management trolls and their blow jobs ever will.

This kind of telecum malpractice means no one in the City
is ever going to connected with high speed fibre optic internet
because every tall rise building now needs something
as large as Eurotunnel to cable up with hollow tubes
and one fibre at a time being run through them with a blow job.

What a fskcing mess!!



Offcum BT bins all Mobile Ads costing hundreds of millions
----------------------------------------------------------

Offcum BT (British Telecum) Openroach VM et al
bins Mobile Ads costing hundreds of millions of dollars to
make because there aren't any mobile masts to distribute
these ads to mobile phone users while they are travelling
in trains, buses, underground tube, taxis etc.

Transpurt for Londonistan is proud telling Christmas shoppers
and foreign visitors to go and stuff it as customers
see connection lost signals
and buffering rings go round and round and round..

In China no such problem which leaves all China tourists bemused
as to why UK has become such a third rate stone age country.

Transpurt for Londinistan can't afford the £6000 install fee for fibre
and 6000 pound per annum fee for each and every *FSCKING* fibre
while companies like B4RN, Hyperoptic etc are charging under
£50 per month for the same 1 gbit fibre service.

The Mayor of Londinistan is wahahahaking off about Boris
when he should be whahahahanking off about BT, Offcum, Openroach
et al who collectively between them has left Londinistan
as the most disconnected city in the world with no pure fibre network.

Even in near third world countries like China, there is no
disconnection as you travel inside big buildings, go into
the underground, travel the tubes, and take overground trains
and travel hundreds of miles.

Even Paris, Londonistani's closest competitor has full fibre
for all its 2 million residents.

Offcum needs to be broken up because the City's
PSD2 is not happening either because again there
are no mobile phone masts and fibre connections to fibre
routers available despite bwanks spending billions getting
it ready and dozens of start ups are spending all their money to make
it all work on mobile phone apps.

Come Christmas, Boxing Day shopping, and New Year shopping,
all the ads that are meant to be delivered to Brexshitting mobile users
will not be delivered while connections are lost 2 hours of the day
average and buffering rings go round and round for millions
of customers for average 2 hours a day while they sit in
buses, taxis, underground tube and trains trying to place orders.

The problem is unfixable for Christmas in 4 weeks time.

Lost sales and ad revenue is going to be in the billions for this
coming Christmas - far more than cost of sacking
the lot at Offcum and replacing it with full fibre directors from B4RN,
Hyperoptic, Cityfibre etc.




Offcum BT lose 1 billion Black Friday sales for retailers
---------------------------------------------------------

Offcum BT (British Telecum) Openroach VM et al lose 1 billion of
Black Friday sales for retailers.

Retailers are saying *FSCKING* thanks a lot to the telecum retards.

A lot of people sat 2 or more hours today watching
connection lost, and buffering rings going round and round and round
in tubes, trains, and buses wondering why they can't click on
a simple bargain order while in China you can do this on moving trains,
moving underground tube trains, on buses in towns and villages
and anywhere else where there is civilization.

All the Lards Ladies Pooliticians doing the

1. Stand up fastly
2. Troll
3. Sit down fastly

routine in UK could not deregulate and abolish Offcum
to save Black Friday. Being comatozed on

1. Stand up fastly
2. Troll
3. Sit down fastly

routines, they have no incentive to change anything when
country is sinking to lowest ever productivity and instead
parade themselves on camera for attention talking
up Brexshit according to what their hallucinations tell
them is important. So expect all of Christmas and New Year
to be spent watching more connection lost and buffering rings
going round and round and round thanks to the pooliticians.

While Oxford street gets the full anti-terror treatment today,
there are not enough cameras to relay the signals
because it all requires fibre optic signals and at £6000 install
fee + £6000 per annum for line rental it ain't
gonna make security happen. At least not according to offcum.
Not even while B4RN, Hyperoptic, Citifibre etc are installing
1 gibit fibre for under £50 a month and have cabled up 800,000+
homes already including the most remote villages and houses
by B4RN for £30 a month for 1gbit fibre.

PSD2 is not happening either because it requires a lot of
mobile phone masts connected with fibre to fibre optic routers.
Which ain't gonna happen at £6000 per install and £6000 per
annum fake fees. So billions being spent by the bwanks and all
the startup companies into new PSD2 services and apps will
not be getting any new mobile customers using it.

The fake fibre epidemic gripping UK is driven by Offcum regulator
that allows people to be conned by BT VM Openroach Pusnet Ski
into believing they got
the best when in reality they got fake fibre.

A gamer buying £1000 gaming card, and £2000
OLED monitor and £1500 gaming PC to play games ain't gonna
get anything more serious than buffering rings going round and
round and round.. They gonna lose their game to some retard in
Paris or near third world country like Portugal where
it is all fibre running 1 gbit easy.




PSD2 - BT (British Telecum) Offcum Openroach sez FSCKIT you ain't having it
---------------------------------------------------------------------------

This fsckit and you ain't havin it management troll approach to
pure fibre, gigabit fibre and fibre internet by Offcum and its babies
BT (British Telecum) Openroach VM etc now threatens PSD2.

Payment Services Directive 2 liberates payment information
so that companies other than banks can do your transactions from
ALL mobiles and browsers anywhere on the internet.
Numerous small app business will now be able to do the same
things that bwanks can do at a fraction of the cost
through your account that only bwanks
previously allowed themselves to do to grab hefty fees
as no one else were allowed to touch that data.

This of course requires all mobiles to have connections to
a mast with a fibre link to gigabit routers or the
infrastructure won't work.

It requires small businesses that offer these
services to have gigabit fibre optic links to process payments
and host their developer servers and tools.


BT (British Telecum) Offcum Openroach sez FSCKIT you ain't having it.


QUUAAAAACCCKkkkkkkhhh.....!!!


BT (British Telecum) Offcum Openroach et al are going to fsck you
from behind until you love them.

And give up PSD2 because you ain't having pure fibre internet.

All the efforts of PSD2 by bwankers and Fintech IoT businesses
are toast because there is no fibre in UK.

In Paris, all 2 million citizens have gigabit fibre internet.

So with Brexshit, you may as well move to France then.

All those things said by the Chancellor Hammond in his budget
speech yesterday about running towards change is for the
birds, the bees and pooliticians. Not for BT (Britsh Telecum)
Offcum, VM, Openroach etc selling fake fibre.






Offconn's Bhtee Telecum fsckies have fsckied again
--------------------------------------------------


https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2017/11/competition-tribunal-upholds-dark-fibre-uk-market-definitions-ruling.html


Brexshit is around the corner when we all need 10gbit internet
to every home to compete in the world and make money
butt, bhtee fsckies and bhtee fsckied insiders in offconn
have done it again.

"Ofcom’s flawed approach was unduly fixated on a ‘make do and mend’
strategy of squeezing economic value out of BT’s existing legacy network, "


WHAT THE *FSCK* DO OFFCONN THINK THEY ARE DOING?????????????

The *fscking* lot of them need to be sacked immediately!!!

They are *NOT* employees of Bhtee to be *fscking* about with
UK telecom market and helping Bhtee.

They are *NOT* employees of Bhtee to be *fscking* in courts
on behalf of Bhtee.

Political action required.

All the companies in the City and their global competitiveness
have been sold down the river because of
Bhtee and Offconn helping each other illegally.


Fake fibre sold by VM BT Offconn Openroach no good for gaming and social
media
------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Gigaclear, Cityfibre and Hyperoptic have all complained to Advertising
Standards Authority (ASA), but they still no action since 2008.

https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2017/06/full-fibre-isps-call-asa-stop-misleading-uk-fibre-broadband-adverts.html

BT (British Telecum) offers similar upload speed to VM on 200mbit
service, but neither come close to similar priced products
from Gigaclear, Cityfibre and Hyperoptic with up to 1 gbit upload
speed enough for gaming, fast social media uploads, and for
whole family to use at the same time without compromising each
other's Internet experience.

The City is being overcharged and conned as well.
Their entire infrastructure is being overcharged and crippled
by BT (Brititsh Telecum) and encumbants.
City trading is 1000% crippled by slow internet
because British Telecum and Openroach don't know how
to install fibre with FPGA routers.

B4N has cabled up 20,000+ rural connection
and is offering down to £30 per month for 1gbit in rural
communities which shirt and tie fscktarts like VM and BT
(British Telecum) don't know how to cable up.

With the help of Offconn, these encumbants are charging
government £4000 per install when the actual costs
are below £250 per install for fibre.

There needs to be separate investigation with reps
from Gigaclear, Citifibre, Hyperoptic, B4RN etc
in the panel holding an parliamentary inquiry into
why the encumbants VM BT (British Telecum), Openroach
and Offconn have all been in it together to con
the UK government out of billions for services
they did not deliver.



I managed to install 1gbit pure fibre in the home for $41.15
------------------------------------------------------------

$12.11 30m fiber optic cable - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-Shipping-SM-SX-3mm-30M-9-125um-30-Meters-Fiber-Optic-Jumper-Cable-SC-UPC/32619865490.html
$29.04 2 x ethernet to fiber - media converter -
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/HTB-GS-03-A-B-Gigabit-Fiber-Optical-Media-Converter-1000Mbps-Single-Mode-Single-Fiber-SC/32450387383.html

30m of pure fibre - only one required as the fibre media converter
is bidirectional and operates at 1Gbits down the single cable.

The fibre is SC-SC connector.

The media converter has SC connector - connect only to
the TX (and ignore RX marked socket) on both transceivers with single
SC-SC connector.

Connect PC to one transceiver ethernet socket, and other transceiver to
the ethernet switch and hey presto, you got 30M fibre linked
optically! :)

It took me all of 3 minutes to get it operational! :)

If you tried to do this about a year or more ago,
you would be out of pocket by a couple of hundred quid.
Today you can do it for £30 - which is just unbelievable.

Cables 100m, 300m and 500m available to link
PCs in garden sheds or extensions back to the switch or
to a router.

If you are linking farm houses together, neighbours
together in a village or linking offices in
a compound together, the procedure is effortlessly
the same. If you can, make your own cables with a bit of practice:

cleaver -$62- https://www.aliexpress.com/item/9-In-1-Fiber-Optic-FTTH-Tool-Kit-with-FC-6S-Fiber-Cleaver-and-Optical-Power/32647289225.html
sleeves - 5 cents - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1000Pcs-OD2-4-45mm-Fiber-Optic-Fusion-Splice-Protection-Sleeves-Fiber-Cable-Protector-Heat-Shrink-Tube/32732857639.html
gigabit transceiver: 20km/1000BASE-LX - $17
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/SFP-Fiber-Optic-Transceiver-1000BASE-LX-SFP-MINI-GBIC-modules-Compatible-for-CISCO-glc-lh-sm/710717277.html
64 way splitter $85 - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/SC-1X64-PLC-Singlemode-Fiber-Optical-splitter-FTTH-PLC-Steel-tube-type-FBT-PLC-optical-fiber/32476975506.html
fibre - --$375/km https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Fiber-Cable-Multimode-2core-Indoor-fiber-optic-cable-Duplex-Zipcord-PCV-jacket-3-0mm-Orange/793795646.html
Fiber junction box - $7 https://www.aliexpress.com/item/KELUSHI-wholesale-FTTH-FTTH-fiber-panel-fiber-optic-terminal-junction-box-86-information-panels-86-Desktop/32598550478.html

If you are linking together ethernet equipment on different
phases (such as large buildings, or multi-storey offices)
then fibre is the way to go to prevent electrical signals
between the different phases damaging equipment (because
the net voltage difference between the phases can be
415V instead of 240V, and all of that meets in your switch
or router or a PC which is terrible news if there is
a problem).

The world is changing - even though I got fibre in the
home, and live in London, there is nowhere to plug
it into on the street, while the rest of the country,
at least 3% of it has fibre, along with many cities,
for under £50 a month, but not London.

Its an absolute terrible crime what offconn has
done to London. They should hang their heads
in shame and go dunk themselves in river Thames.
Hopefully the replacements are pro-fiber and pure
fibre company directors with a vested interest
in ensuring their under £50 a month fibre companies
are cleared to expand into London at
maximum possible pace.



Paris gets FTTH to all its 2 million inhabitants - Nothing for London
---------------------------------------------------------------------

Sacra bleau!

Paris now has over 2 million FTTH 1 gigabit symmetric DSL (equal upload
and download speed) but London has NOTHING.

A big thank you goes out to *FSCKTARDS* at offconn for being
the vehicle for this.

We need names in front of TV instead fcktards going into hiding and
get out there explaining why Londoners (all 7 million of them, more than
10%
of
UK population concentrated into one place) cannot have their
FTTH 1 gigabit symmetric DSL connection with equal upload and
download speeds starting at £30 per month to £50 per month
while 3% of the country already has it from the likes of
B4RN, Hyperoptic, Gigaclear, FibreCity etc., and other countries
and big cities like Paris that are competitors have fully cabled up FTTH.
In Sweden you got 30 providers per city while there are zero
providers in London.

So why can't these fsktards at offconn resign and let some
other authority be set up to that are pro-fibre and let Londoners
have fibre to the home?

It pushes up the value of London by at leas 2 billion pounds.
And each and every city can add the same value now that
we are brexshitting and have to have this technology to be
competitive.

All it requires is some trolls to be spanked and sacked in
Offconn, and replaced with pro-fibre interest commercial
managers and bob is your uncle - value of UK goes up by
at least 50 billion when 25 cities and towns get cabled up
with fibre.


Angiewireless rolling out 10gbit fibre
--------------------------------------

https://www.angiewireless.co.uk/your-city/

Bhtee VM Openroach all shiitting in their pants
and master baiting even faster with their
krone tool master bation nation tools.

These Bhtee VM Openroach and their racketeering
protection organization offconn don't use 1% of
a gigabit internet connection delivering their pone collection
traffic and teeveee looped box set collection traffic.

Most of this looped teevee is not even watched
because more than 50% of the people on the internet
prefer to watch youtube and the like :)

Bhtee has no understanding of this reality as they go all out
thieving pensioners to fund Bhtee teevee,
and VM even less charging more every day for content
that is unwatchable with nearly 30 minutes of ads per
30 minutes of looped videos. Its easier to watch youtube :)

And gigabit fibre upload speeds are same as download speeds
because its a hundred times cheaper to do it that way,
which means streaming your work for millions to watch
or uploading content in a fraction of the time compared
to Bhtee VM networks that takes several hours to upload a video.

So what are they to do with 10gbit fibre companies
that have already achieved massive roll out
across the globe?

Are they going to sell all their assets
and be the 0.1% customers of these 10gbit companies now?

They have no choice but to sell their phone copper network
and teevee cable network for scrap and become the 0.1% customers
of 10gbit fibre companies.

Fibre costs 100th the price to lay down because their
ducts can be buried 200mm to 1m below the surface.
These ducts don't need strength as there is no electricity,
gas, water or sewage that can spill out if they got dug up
which requires strong ducts to be erected.

A small team can lay 2km of fibre network every day.
The cost of cabling up the entire UK is £6.5 billion,
and revenues first year is £15 billion minimum,
enough to pay it all back.

The retail costs of equipment now ridiculously low (wholesale cheaper):

cleaver -$62- https://www.aliexpress.com/item/9-In-1-Fiber-Optic-FTTH-Tool-Kit-with-FC-6S-Fiber-Cleaver-and-Optical-Power/32647289225.html

sleeves - 5 cents - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1000Pcs-OD2-4-45mm-Fiber-Optic-Fusion-Splice-Protection-Sleeves-Fiber-Cable-Protector-Heat-Shrink-Tube/32732857639.html

gigabit transceiver: 20km/1000BASE-LX - $17
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/SFP-Fiber-Optic-Transceiver-1000BASE-LX-SFP-MINI-GBIC-modules-Compatible-for-CISCO-glc-lh-sm/710717277.html

64 way splitter $85 - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/SC-1X64-PLC-Singlemode-Fiber-Optical-splitter-FTTH-PLC-Steel-tube-type-FBT-PLC-optical-fiber/32476975506.html

fibre - --$375/km https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Fiber-Cable-Multimode-2core-Indoor-fiber-optic-cable-Duplex-Zipcord-PCV-jacket-3-0mm-Orange/793795646.html

Fiber junction box - $7 https://www.aliexpress.com/item/KELUSHI-wholesale-FTTH-FTTH-fiber-panel-fiber-optic-terminal-junction-box-86-information-panels-86-Desktop/32598550478.html

If you send your buyers to China and source all the kit directly,
you can get it much cheaper by the container load.

Your container may cost £2000, but you can bring across £200,000 pounds
worth of stuff
and be making £1 million by the end of a few months.
The only things that hold everyone back is the local councils that
are hell bent pricks on wheels catering to offconn, bhtee and VM interest
and requiring 50 miles of paperwork for 5 miles of fibre.

If you elect to get rid of them and replace it with
fibre friendly councillors in elections 2 months, then
who knows, you could have gigabit symmetric fibre before the
end of the year :)

70% of UK businesses and farms are worried about not getting
fibre into their premises. Bhttee offconn VM Openroach have
no plans to deliver £50 1 gigabit symmetric fibre to the home by 2020
despite 3% of UK households having it wired by non encumbants
like Hyperoptic, Gigaclear, B4RN, Cityfibre, Angiewireless and so on.

So smart alecs with businesses to run and employees to pay
need to push out the unfriendly types from government
and councils and get their fibre friendly councillors into office asap.


Bhtee VM accidentally leak their FTTP equipment prices
------------------------------------------------------

Not.

So I'm setting up BhteeVM_Leeks_WebShite.com web with retail price
list for these items (wholesale cheaper):

64 way splitter $85 - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/SC-1X64-PLC-Singlemode-Fiber-Optical-splitter-FTTH-PLC-Steel-tube-type-FBT-PLC-optical-fiber/32476975506.html

fibre - --$375/km https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Fiber-Cable-Multimode-2core-Indoor-fiber-optic-cable-Duplex-Zipcord-PCV-jacket-3-0mm-Orange/793795646.html

cleaver -$62- https://www.aliexpress.com/item/9-In-1-Fiber-Optic-FTTH-Tool-Kit-with-FC-6S-Fiber-Cleaver-and-Optical-Power/32647289225.html

sleeves - 5 cents - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1000Pcs-OD2-4-45mm-Fiber-Optic-Fusion-Splice-Protection-Sleeves-Fiber-Cable-Protector-Heat-Shrink-Tube/32732857639.html

gigabit transceiver: 20km/1000BASE-LX - $17
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/SFP-Fiber-Optic-Transceiver-1000BASE-LX-SFP-MINI-GBIC-modules-Compatible-for-CISCO-glc-lh-sm/710717277.html

The best way to build routers is to hire FPGA engineers and build the
routers yourself from FPGA and scale up
rapidly
by building copies of own boards.

Otherwise have to purchase say a Cisco router upward £30,000.
Instead pay FPGA engineer £60,000 for 6 months to create as many FPGA boards
as you need for routers.

Examples of what can be done:
https://www.xes-inc.com/products/fpgas/xpedite2402/
https://www.broadcom.com/optical_fpga

IoD calls for 10Gbit fibre
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35681475

Anyone can get into fibre as the trenches are shallow (less than 1m deep)
and carry no electricity - farmer's wifey has done it! :)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-37974267

Farmer's wifey runs pure fibre.
And delivers 1 gigabit fibre symmetric DSL with equal upload and download
speeds
at prices around 30 pounds per month. Bhtee and VM are choking on it and
master baiting
with their krone tools as fast as they can.

So when Bhtee charge 6000 pounds per year for their 1gbit service when we
know their
equipment costs are next to nothing now.
They need to pay all the customers this money back because it is illegal
to overcharge and kidnap all that money to fund subsidies for bhtee teevee
which they have been doing illegally for a long time.


Bhtee and VM can't even use 1% of the capacity with their teeevee and phone
services.
They could instead ask B4RN to install gigabit fibre for them and become
their 1% customer and still everyone will make money.

So when Bhtee charge 6000 pounds per year for their 1gbit service, they
need to be told it must reflect costs as described above,
and any overcharging should be treated like PPI mis-selling
and needs to be paid back to customer from investor profit.

The regulators are in cahoots with Bhtee VM and should be got rid of
and replaced by pure fibre companies and reps.

It could be at least 10 years before bhteee and vm pay back
their over charged customers.

With real prices out in the open for FTTP kit, anyone can
go buy the kit and start laying fibre and make their own
companies. The only way to encourage startups is to deregulate.

With such low FTTP equipment costs,
its not difficult to see why companies like
Talk Talk is investing 5 million pounds
in Yorkshire to wire up 20,000 homes.
Revenue is easily 1 million pounds a month.
Everything paid for in under a year potentially.


Bhtee VM fails 2020 open market review
--------------------------------------

Bhtee and VM fail 2020 open market review to deliver
1Gbit symmetric DSL fibre to premises FTTP for £50 in a test
of free market.

By year 2020 no one in Bhtee or VM will deliver FTTP service
in UK at £50 per month.

This is despite Hyperoptic, Gigaclear, B4RN and many others
delivering 2% of UK infrastructure on 1Gbit symmetric DSL FTTP today.

Councils in England Wales Scotland and Northern Ireland warned
not to deal with Bhtee and VM roping them into expensive out
dated technology being peddled by the likes of VM and Bhtee
that are thin on facts and loose on professional delivery.
Local council and government funding should be given priority
to gigabit pure fibre optic companies delivering minimum 1gbit FTTP
symmetric DSL services capped at 50 pounds retail, noting the average
service provider is able to deliver it at under £30 per month.

All tax payer funding to the likes of Bhttee and VM should be stopped
immediately in favour of pure fibre companies.
The market is expected to be dominated by fibre
companies installing fibre in 1 meter shallow dug plastic pipes
as they don't carry electric cables which would otherwise require
deeper tunnels and stronger ducts causing extensive disruption.
Cumpanies like Bhtee and VM that use less than 1% of the internet
with their telephony and teevee data would become the 1% customers
of the new fibre companies.

Local councils and regulators should pressure Bhtee and VM to remove all
their unnecessary copper from their ducts with incentives such as fines
and sell it for scrap and recycling, and switch to using pure fibre
providers to deliver their services to UK customers.
Tony Dragon
2017-12-22 17:28:32 UTC
Permalink
Post by BurfordTJustice
Stay in school little gay boi.
:Telecum) Shiit
He still hasn't told us the name of the company he has/will set up to do
all he says.

Once his company has been running for a year with good results, I am
sure that all the telecom companies plus private investors like us will
be fighting each other to buy his shares.
7
2017-12-22 23:54:17 UTC
Permalink
Post by Tony Dragon
Post by BurfordTJustice
:Telecum) Shiit
He still hasn't told us the name of the company he has/will set up to do
all he says.
Once his company has been running for a year with good results, I am
sure that all the telecom companies plus private investors like us will
be fighting each other to buy his shares.
Like BT (British Telecum) are doing weeping like gurlies at loosing
contracts and lowering prices which is illegal malpractice any way.
Either a price is for UK wide charge, or it is fraudulent demand
which is adjusted down locally whenever there is pressure to change.
Tony Dragon
2017-12-23 09:27:26 UTC
Permalink
Post by 7
Post by Tony Dragon
Post by BurfordTJustice
:Telecum) Shiit
He still hasn't told us the name of the company he has/will set up to do
all he says.
Once his company has been running for a year with good results, I am
sure that all the telecom companies plus private investors like us will
be fighting each other to buy his shares.
Like BT (British Telecum) are doing weeping like gurlies at loosing
contracts and lowering prices which is illegal malpractice any way.
Either a price is for UK wide charge, or it is fraudulent demand
which is adjusted down locally whenever there is pressure to change.
So no answer then, strange that.
7
2017-12-23 10:11:53 UTC
Permalink
Post by Tony Dragon
So no answer then, strange that.
Nothing should be strange for a snowflake internet troll
out protecting BT (British Telecum) interests.


You had your answer in original poost.
Please read again and weep like all trolls must:



Who values BT (British Telecum) Shiit investments?
--------------------------------------------------

Offcum values BT (British Telecum) Shiit investments.

Offcum are experts at protecting BT shiit investments by
illegally holding shiit's shares and working on behalf
or BT selling copper adsl to government instead of
full fibre internet at 1/20th the price for 1gbit links.

Openroach values BT Shiit for investments.

Openroach are experts at giving customers a shiit service
and blow jobs at double price, double effort and half the
productivity of everyone else.


If Government or a local council or a business
asked BT (British Telecum) or Offcon or Openroach
a price for internet, they would have lied to your
face in full.

If Government or a local council or a business
asked BT (British Telecum) or Offcon or Openroach
a price for broadband, they would have told you the truth.

What is the difference between asking the price
for 10mbit broadband and asking the price for industry
standard full fibre internet node cheapest
option connecting up a country with best bandwidth
to price ratio?

Internet can be provisioned at 1/20th the price of
broadband. Broadband, shiit's investment, services
can only be delivered with copper.
It requires electrical cable, brick lined tunnels,
water ingress protection, lightening protection,
deeper digs, telegraph poles for distribution,
ADSL modems for every line, fibre modems at each cabinet,
complex machinery for provisioning different upload
and download speed.

While internet can be provisioned with fibre
at 1/20th the price because the fibres don't need
brick lined tunnels and doesn't any complex modems
or machinery for complex upload/download speed controls.
500 fibres can be had from about $2 per meter.
Its cheaper than copper. And you can install the entire
cable in one step instead of asking openroach to
install an empty tube and then blow job a fibre through
that *fscking* empty tube - effectively double the work
and half the productivity and shiit for service while
everyone else install once by installing the fibre cable directly.

And why is Hammond giving away £3000 per business
for full fibre internet to Openroach and BT
when that is normally installed for £250 to £500 by
other companies?

Isn't that called fraud if other companies
are already doing it while BT offcum openroach
can't do it?

And why is government not asking telecom
companies and offcum the asking price for industry
standard full fibre internet 1gbit node cheapest
option connecting up a country with best bandwidth
to price ratio and instead ask the price
of 10mbit ADSL which is 20x expensive than 1gbit fibre?
I can understand if the powers in government that
do all the asking are BT (British Telecum) Shiit
shareholders seeking value for their shiit
investment. But that is called fraud.
Definitely not serving UK brexshit plc.

Even 3rd world country like Azerbaijan has
double the mobile internet speed.
(Among numerous other countries.)
That means their telecom masts are all fibred up.
While in the UK that can't happen when Openroach
BT Offcum are holding their hands out for
£6000 pounds install fee and £6000 annual charges.
All the while 800,000 substantial rural areas
are fibred up with 1gbit services for under £50
per month in UK. So why can't the mobile operators get
their £50 per month gigabit fibre?
Because BT's shiite investors with their shiit
for brains 10mbit ADSL junk conning government
and committing daily fraud.

Japan already has 97% pure fibre.
If brexshit plc is going to compete, it needs
more than deregulation. The best option
is to dump BT shiit investor concerns
and hand all the contracts out to full fibre
companies at the going rate of no more than
£250 to £500 per connection and £50 per month.
Shiit's investors will scream and fsck off and die
but you got better internet for it while
shiite investors have got shiit in their face
for delaying UK plc.



BT (British Telecum) Openroach giving double blow jobs with fibre
-----------------------------------------------------------------

<blow> <blow> <blow> ... <job> <job> <job>!!

That is the sound of bhtee offcum openroach krone tool
master baiters installing fibre.

Double the price, half the productivity, half the efficiency,
and twice the manpower with Bhtee Openroach approach.

Openroach are already missed their own deadlines for rolling
out fibre.

The clue is here is that no one uses these out dated
practices except BT offcum openroach.

How low can these super thick management trolls get?

It cost about £1 to £2 per meter for a couple of hundred
core fibre. So why does BT openroach offcum trolls
install an empty fibre tube and then spend double time
blowing one fibre at a time through the empty tube
with a blow job?

May be they miss krone tool master bation and
now resort to giving customers blow jobs on site?

Double the time, double the effort, double the cost
and very few fibres get installed.

No one does this.

Everyone just installs once the 500+ fibre bundle cores
and leave plenty of spare capacity for cabling
up the rest of Brexshitting UK plc at a lower cost than
install tube and then fibre one fibre at a time.

The fsking p ricks at offcum BT (British Telecum) Openroach
should be relieved of their franchise and exclusive
access to markets and ducts with immediate effect.

All the street ducts should be confiscated by an agnostic
body and charged according to per cm cross sectional
area. So if you install a empty tube 1cm cross section
to blow one fibre, you fsck yourself in the rear
when someone else installs a 1cm cable with 500 fibres
for the same price and connect up 500 more customers
than management trolls and their blow jobs ever will.

This kind of telecum malpractice means no one in the City
is ever going to connected with high speed fibre optic internet
because every tall rise building now needs something
as large as Eurotunnel to cable up with hollow tubes
and one fibre at a time being run through them with a blow job.

What a fskcing mess!!



Offcum BT bins all Mobile Ads costing hundreds of millions
----------------------------------------------------------

Offcum BT (British Telecum) Openroach VM et al
bins Mobile Ads costing hundreds of millions of dollars to
make because there aren't any mobile masts to distribute
these ads to mobile phone users while they are travelling
in trains, buses, underground tube, taxis etc.

Transpurt for Londonistan is proud telling Christmas shoppers
and foreign visitors to go and stuff it as customers
see connection lost signals
and buffering rings go round and round and round..

In China no such problem which leaves all China tourists bemused
as to why UK has become such a third rate stone age country.

Transpurt for Londinistan can't afford the £6000 install fee for fibre
and 6000 pound per annum fee for each and every *FSCKING* fibre
while companies like B4RN, Hyperoptic etc are charging under
£50 per month for the same 1 gbit fibre service.

The Mayor of Londinistan is wahahahaking off about Boris
when he should be whahahahanking off about BT, Offcum, Openroach
et al who collectively between them has left Londinistan
as the most disconnected city in the world with no pure fibre network.

Even in near third world countries like China, there is no
disconnection as you travel inside big buildings, go into
the underground, travel the tubes, and take overground trains
and travel hundreds of miles.

Even Paris, Londonistani's closest competitor has full fibre
for all its 2 million residents.

Offcum needs to be broken up because the City's
PSD2 is not happening either because again there
are no mobile phone masts and fibre connections to fibre
routers available despite bwanks spending billions getting
it ready and dozens of start ups are spending all their money to make
it all work on mobile phone apps.

Come Christmas, Boxing Day shopping, and New Year shopping,
all the ads that are meant to be delivered to Brexshitting mobile users
will not be delivered while connections are lost 2 hours of the day
average and buffering rings go round and round for millions
of customers for average 2 hours a day while they sit in
buses, taxis, underground tube and trains trying to place orders.

The problem is unfixable for Christmas in 4 weeks time.

Lost sales and ad revenue is going to be in the billions for this
coming Christmas - far more than cost of sacking
the lot at Offcum and replacing it with full fibre directors from B4RN,
Hyperoptic, Cityfibre etc.




Offcum BT lose 1 billion Black Friday sales for retailers
---------------------------------------------------------

Offcum BT (British Telecum) Openroach VM et al lose 1 billion of
Black Friday sales for retailers.

Retailers are saying *FSCKING* thanks a lot to the telecum retards.

A lot of people sat 2 or more hours today watching
connection lost, and buffering rings going round and round and round
in tubes, trains, and buses wondering why they can't click on
a simple bargain order while in China you can do this on moving trains,
moving underground tube trains, on buses in towns and villages
and anywhere else where there is civilization.

All the Lards Ladies Pooliticians doing the

1. Stand up fastly
2. Troll
3. Sit down fastly

routine in UK could not deregulate and abolish Offcum
to save Black Friday. Being comatozed on

1. Stand up fastly
2. Troll
3. Sit down fastly

routines, they have no incentive to change anything when
country is sinking to lowest ever productivity and instead
parade themselves on camera for attention talking
up Brexshit according to what their hallucinations tell
them is important. So expect all of Christmas and New Year
to be spent watching more connection lost and buffering rings
going round and round and round thanks to the pooliticians.

While Oxford street gets the full anti-terror treatment today,
there are not enough cameras to relay the signals
because it all requires fibre optic signals and at £6000 install
fee + £6000 per annum for line rental it ain't
gonna make security happen. At least not according to offcum.
Not even while B4RN, Hyperoptic, Citifibre etc are installing
1 gibit fibre for under £50 a month and have cabled up 800,000+
homes already including the most remote villages and houses
by B4RN for £30 a month for 1gbit fibre.

PSD2 is not happening either because it requires a lot of
mobile phone masts connected with fibre to fibre optic routers.
Which ain't gonna happen at £6000 per install and £6000 per
annum fake fees. So billions being spent by the bwanks and all
the startup companies into new PSD2 services and apps will
not be getting any new mobile customers using it.

The fake fibre epidemic gripping UK is driven by Offcum regulator
that allows people to be conned by BT VM Openroach Pusnet Ski
into believing they got
the best when in reality they got fake fibre.

A gamer buying £1000 gaming card, and £2000
OLED monitor and £1500 gaming PC to play games ain't gonna
get anything more serious than buffering rings going round and
round and round.. They gonna lose their game to some retard in
Paris or near third world country like Portugal where
it is all fibre running 1 gbit easy.




PSD2 - BT (British Telecum) Offcum Openroach sez FSCKIT you ain't having it
---------------------------------------------------------------------------

This fsckit and you ain't havin it management troll approach to
pure fibre, gigabit fibre and fibre internet by Offcum and its babies
BT (British Telecum) Openroach VM etc now threatens PSD2.

Payment Services Directive 2 liberates payment information
so that companies other than banks can do your transactions from
ALL mobiles and browsers anywhere on the internet.
Numerous small app business will now be able to do the same
things that bwanks can do at a fraction of the cost
through your account that only bwanks
previously allowed themselves to do to grab hefty fees
as no one else were allowed to touch that data.

This of course requires all mobiles to have connections to
a mast with a fibre link to gigabit routers or the
infrastructure won't work.

It requires small businesses that offer these
services to have gigabit fibre optic links to process payments
and host their developer servers and tools.


BT (British Telecum) Offcum Openroach sez FSCKIT you ain't having it.


QUUAAAAACCCKkkkkkkhhh.....!!!


BT (British Telecum) Offcum Openroach et al are going to fsck you
from behind until you love them.

And give up PSD2 because you ain't having pure fibre internet.

All the efforts of PSD2 by bwankers and Fintech IoT businesses
are toast because there is no fibre in UK.

In Paris, all 2 million citizens have gigabit fibre internet.

So with Brexshit, you may as well move to France then.

All those things said by the Chancellor Hammond in his budget
speech yesterday about running towards change is for the
birds, the bees and pooliticians. Not for BT (Britsh Telecum)
Offcum, VM, Openroach etc selling fake fibre.






Offconn's Bhtee Telecum fsckies have fsckied again
--------------------------------------------------


https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2017/11/competition-tribunal-upholds-dark-fibre-uk-market-definitions-ruling.html


Brexshit is around the corner when we all need 10gbit internet
to every home to compete in the world and make money
butt, bhtee fsckies and bhtee fsckied insiders in offconn
have done it again.

"Ofcom’s flawed approach was unduly fixated on a ‘make do and mend’
strategy of squeezing economic value out of BT’s existing legacy network, "


WHAT THE *FSCK* DO OFFCONN THINK THEY ARE DOING?????????????

The *fscking* lot of them need to be sacked immediately!!!

They are *NOT* employees of Bhtee to be *fscking* about with
UK telecom market and helping Bhtee.

They are *NOT* employees of Bhtee to be *fscking* in courts
on behalf of Bhtee.

Political action required.

All the companies in the City and their global competitiveness
have been sold down the river because of
Bhtee and Offconn helping each other illegally.


Fake fibre sold by VM BT Offconn Openroach no good for gaming and social
media
------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Gigaclear, Cityfibre and Hyperoptic have all complained to Advertising
Standards Authority (ASA), but they still no action since 2008.

https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2017/06/full-fibre-isps-call-asa-stop-misleading-uk-fibre-broadband-adverts.html

BT (British Telecum) offers similar upload speed to VM on 200mbit
service, but neither come close to similar priced products
from Gigaclear, Cityfibre and Hyperoptic with up to 1 gbit upload
speed enough for gaming, fast social media uploads, and for
whole family to use at the same time without compromising each
other's Internet experience.

The City is being overcharged and conned as well.
Their entire infrastructure is being overcharged and crippled
by BT (Brititsh Telecum) and encumbants.
City trading is 1000% crippled by slow internet
because British Telecum and Openroach don't know how
to install fibre with FPGA routers.

B4N has cabled up 20,000+ rural connection
and is offering down to £30 per month for 1gbit in rural
communities which shirt and tie fscktarts like VM and BT
(British Telecum) don't know how to cable up.

With the help of Offconn, these encumbants are charging
government £4000 per install when the actual costs
are below £250 per install for fibre.

There needs to be separate investigation with reps
from Gigaclear, Citifibre, Hyperoptic, B4RN etc
in the panel holding an parliamentary inquiry into
why the encumbants VM BT (British Telecum), Openroach
and Offconn have all been in it together to con
the UK government out of billions for services
they did not deliver.



I managed to install 1gbit pure fibre in the home for $41.15
------------------------------------------------------------

$12.11 30m fiber optic cable - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-Shipping-SM-SX-3mm-30M-9-125um-30-Meters-Fiber-Optic-Jumper-Cable-SC-UPC/32619865490.html
$29.04 2 x ethernet to fiber - media converter -
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/HTB-GS-03-A-B-Gigabit-Fiber-Optical-Media-Converter-1000Mbps-Single-Mode-Single-Fiber-SC/32450387383.html

30m of pure fibre - only one required as the fibre media converter
is bidirectional and operates at 1Gbits down the single cable.

The fibre is SC-SC connector.

The media converter has SC connector - connect only to
the TX (and ignore RX marked socket) on both transceivers with single
SC-SC connector.

Connect PC to one transceiver ethernet socket, and other transceiver to
the ethernet switch and hey presto, you got 30M fibre linked
optically! :)

It took me all of 3 minutes to get it operational! :)

If you tried to do this about a year or more ago,
you would be out of pocket by a couple of hundred quid.
Today you can do it for £30 - which is just unbelievable.

Cables 100m, 300m and 500m available to link
PCs in garden sheds or extensions back to the switch or
to a router.

If you are linking farm houses together, neighbours
together in a village or linking offices in
a compound together, the procedure is effortlessly
the same. If you can, make your own cables with a bit of practice:

cleaver -$62- https://www.aliexpress.com/item/9-In-1-Fiber-Optic-FTTH-Tool-Kit-with-FC-6S-Fiber-Cleaver-and-Optical-Power/32647289225.html
sleeves - 5 cents - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1000Pcs-OD2-4-45mm-Fiber-Optic-Fusion-Splice-Protection-Sleeves-Fiber-Cable-Protector-Heat-Shrink-Tube/32732857639.html
gigabit transceiver: 20km/1000BASE-LX - $17
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/SFP-Fiber-Optic-Transceiver-1000BASE-LX-SFP-MINI-GBIC-modules-Compatible-for-CISCO-glc-lh-sm/710717277.html
64 way splitter $85 - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/SC-1X64-PLC-Singlemode-Fiber-Optical-splitter-FTTH-PLC-Steel-tube-type-FBT-PLC-optical-fiber/32476975506.html
fibre - --$375/km https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Fiber-Cable-Multimode-2core-Indoor-fiber-optic-cable-Duplex-Zipcord-PCV-jacket-3-0mm-Orange/793795646.html
Fiber junction box - $7 https://www.aliexpress.com/item/KELUSHI-wholesale-FTTH-FTTH-fiber-panel-fiber-optic-terminal-junction-box-86-information-panels-86-Desktop/32598550478.html

If you are linking together ethernet equipment on different
phases (such as large buildings, or multi-storey offices)
then fibre is the way to go to prevent electrical signals
between the different phases damaging equipment (because
the net voltage difference between the phases can be
415V instead of 240V, and all of that meets in your switch
or router or a PC which is terrible news if there is
a problem).

The world is changing - even though I got fibre in the
home, and live in London, there is nowhere to plug
it into on the street, while the rest of the country,
at least 3% of it has fibre, along with many cities,
for under £50 a month, but not London.

Its an absolute terrible crime what offconn has
done to London. They should hang their heads
in shame and go dunk themselves in river Thames.
Hopefully the replacements are pro-fiber and pure
fibre company directors with a vested interest
in ensuring their under £50 a month fibre companies
are cleared to expand into London at
maximum possible pace.



Paris gets FTTH to all its 2 million inhabitants - Nothing for London
---------------------------------------------------------------------

Sacra bleau!

Paris now has over 2 million FTTH 1 gigabit symmetric DSL (equal upload
and download speed) but London has NOTHING.

A big thank you goes out to *FSCKTARDS* at offconn for being
the vehicle for this.

We need names in front of TV instead fcktards going into hiding and
get out there explaining why Londoners (all 7 million of them, more than 10%
of
UK population concentrated into one place) cannot have their
FTTH 1 gigabit symmetric DSL connection with equal upload and
download speeds starting at £30 per month to £50 per month
while 3% of the country already has it from the likes of
B4RN, Hyperoptic, Gigaclear, FibreCity etc., and other countries
and big cities like Paris that are competitors have fully cabled up FTTH.
In Sweden you got 30 providers per city while there are zero
providers in London.

So why can't these fsktards at offconn resign and let some
other authority be set up to that are pro-fibre and let Londoners
have fibre to the home?

It pushes up the value of London by at leas 2 billion pounds.
And each and every city can add the same value now that
we are brexshitting and have to have this technology to be
competitive.

All it requires is some trolls to be spanked and sacked in
Offconn, and replaced with pro-fibre interest commercial
managers and bob is your uncle - value of UK goes up by
at least 50 billion when 25 cities and towns get cabled up
with fibre.


Angiewireless rolling out 10gbit fibre
--------------------------------------

https://www.angiewireless.co.uk/your-city/

Bhtee VM Openroach all shiitting in their pants
and master baiting even faster with their
krone tool master bation nation tools.

These Bhtee VM Openroach and their racketeering
protection organization offconn don't use 1% of
a gigabit internet connection delivering their pone collection
traffic and teeveee looped box set collection traffic.

Most of this looped teevee is not even watched
because more than 50% of the people on the internet
prefer to watch youtube and the like :)

Bhtee has no understanding of this reality as they go all out
thieving pensioners to fund Bhtee teevee,
and VM even less charging more every day for content
that is unwatchable with nearly 30 minutes of ads per
30 minutes of looped videos. Its easier to watch youtube :)

And gigabit fibre upload speeds are same as download speeds
because its a hundred times cheaper to do it that way,
which means streaming your work for millions to watch
or uploading content in a fraction of the time compared
to Bhtee VM networks that takes several hours to upload a video.

So what are they to do with 10gbit fibre companies
that have already achieved massive roll out
across the globe?

Are they going to sell all their assets
and be the 0.1% customers of these 10gbit companies now?

They have no choice but to sell their phone copper network
and teevee cable network for scrap and become the 0.1% customers
of 10gbit fibre companies.

Fibre costs 100th the price to lay down because their
ducts can be buried 200mm to 1m below the surface.
These ducts don't need strength as there is no electricity,
gas, water or sewage that can spill out if they got dug up
which requires strong ducts to be erected.

A small team can lay 2km of fibre network every day.
The cost of cabling up the entire UK is £6.5 billion,
and revenues first year is £15 billion minimum,
enough to pay it all back.

The retail costs of equipment now ridiculously low (wholesale cheaper):

cleaver -$62- https://www.aliexpress.com/item/9-In-1-Fiber-Optic-FTTH-Tool-Kit-with-FC-6S-Fiber-Cleaver-and-Optical-Power/32647289225.html

sleeves - 5 cents - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1000Pcs-OD2-4-45mm-Fiber-Optic-Fusion-Splice-Protection-Sleeves-Fiber-Cable-Protector-Heat-Shrink-Tube/32732857639.html

gigabit transceiver: 20km/1000BASE-LX - $17
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/SFP-Fiber-Optic-Transceiver-1000BASE-LX-SFP-MINI-GBIC-modules-Compatible-for-CISCO-glc-lh-sm/710717277.html

64 way splitter $85 - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/SC-1X64-PLC-Singlemode-Fiber-Optical-splitter-FTTH-PLC-Steel-tube-type-FBT-PLC-optical-fiber/32476975506.html

fibre - --$375/km https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Fiber-Cable-Multimode-2core-Indoor-fiber-optic-cable-Duplex-Zipcord-PCV-jacket-3-0mm-Orange/793795646.html

Fiber junction box - $7 https://www.aliexpress.com/item/KELUSHI-wholesale-FTTH-FTTH-fiber-panel-fiber-optic-terminal-junction-box-86-information-panels-86-Desktop/32598550478.html

If you send your buyers to China and source all the kit directly,
you can get it much cheaper by the container load.

Your container may cost £2000, but you can bring across £200,000 pounds
worth of stuff
and be making £1 million by the end of a few months.
The only things that hold everyone back is the local councils that
are hell bent pricks on wheels catering to offconn, bhtee and VM interest
and requiring 50 miles of paperwork for 5 miles of fibre.

If you elect to get rid of them and replace it with
fibre friendly councillors in elections 2 months, then
who knows, you could have gigabit symmetric fibre before the
end of the year :)

70% of UK businesses and farms are worried about not getting
fibre into their premises. Bhttee offconn VM Openroach have
no plans to deliver £50 1 gigabit symmetric fibre to the home by 2020
despite 3% of UK households having it wired by non encumbants
like Hyperoptic, Gigaclear, B4RN, Cityfibre, Angiewireless and so on.

So smart alecs with businesses to run and employees to pay
need to push out the unfriendly types from government
and councils and get their fibre friendly councillors into office asap.


Bhtee VM accidentally leak their FTTP equipment prices
------------------------------------------------------

Not.

So I'm setting up BhteeVM_Leeks_WebShite.com web with retail price
list for these items (wholesale cheaper):

64 way splitter $85 - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/SC-1X64-PLC-Singlemode-Fiber-Optical-splitter-FTTH-PLC-Steel-tube-type-FBT-PLC-optical-fiber/32476975506.html

fibre - --$375/km https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Fiber-Cable-Multimode-2core-Indoor-fiber-optic-cable-Duplex-Zipcord-PCV-jacket-3-0mm-Orange/793795646.html

cleaver -$62- https://www.aliexpress.com/item/9-In-1-Fiber-Optic-FTTH-Tool-Kit-with-FC-6S-Fiber-Cleaver-and-Optical-Power/32647289225.html

sleeves - 5 cents - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1000Pcs-OD2-4-45mm-Fiber-Optic-Fusion-Splice-Protection-Sleeves-Fiber-Cable-Protector-Heat-Shrink-Tube/32732857639.html

gigabit transceiver: 20km/1000BASE-LX - $17
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/SFP-Fiber-Optic-Transceiver-1000BASE-LX-SFP-MINI-GBIC-modules-Compatible-for-CISCO-glc-lh-sm/710717277.html

The best way to build routers is to hire FPGA engineers and build the
routers yourself from FPGA and scale up
rapidly
by building copies of own boards.

Otherwise have to purchase say a Cisco router upward £30,000.
Instead pay FPGA engineer £60,000 for 6 months to create as many FPGA boards
as you need for routers.

Examples of what can be done:
https://www.xes-inc.com/products/fpgas/xpedite2402/
https://www.broadcom.com/optical_fpga

IoD calls for 10Gbit fibre
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35681475

Anyone can get into fibre as the trenches are shallow (less than 1m deep)
and carry no electricity - farmer's wifey has done it! :)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-37974267

Farmer's wifey runs pure fibre.
And delivers 1 gigabit fibre symmetric DSL with equal upload and download
speeds
at prices around 30 pounds per month. Bhtee and VM are choking on it and
master baiting
with their krone tools as fast as they can.

So when Bhtee charge 6000 pounds per year for their 1gbit service when we
know their
equipment costs are next to nothing now.
They need to pay all the customers this money back because it is illegal
to overcharge and kidnap all that money to fund subsidies for bhtee teevee
which they have been doing illegally for a long time.


Bhtee and VM can't even use 1% of the capacity with their teeevee and phone
services.
They could instead ask B4RN to install gigabit fibre for them and become
their 1% customer and still everyone will make money.

So when Bhtee charge 6000 pounds per year for their 1gbit service, they
need to be told it must reflect costs as described above,
and any overcharging should be treated like PPI mis-selling
and needs to be paid back to customer from investor profit.

The regulators are in cahoots with Bhtee VM and should be got rid of
and replaced by pure fibre companies and reps.

It could be at least 10 years before bhteee and vm pay back
their over charged customers.

With real prices out in the open for FTTP kit, anyone can
go buy the kit and start laying fibre and make their own
companies. The only way to encourage startups is to deregulate.

With such low FTTP equipment costs,
its not difficult to see why companies like
Talk Talk is investing 5 million pounds
in Yorkshire to wire up 20,000 homes.
Revenue is easily 1 million pounds a month.
Everything paid for in under a year potentially.


Bhtee VM fails 2020 open market review
--------------------------------------

Bhtee and VM fail 2020 open market review to deliver
1Gbit symmetric DSL fibre to premises FTTP for £50 in a test
of free market.

By year 2020 no one in Bhtee or VM will deliver FTTP service
in UK at £50 per month.

This is despite Hyperoptic, Gigaclear, B4RN and many others
delivering 2% of UK infrastructure on 1Gbit symmetric DSL FTTP today.

Councils in England Wales Scotland and Northern Ireland warned
not to deal with Bhtee and VM roping them into expensive out
dated technology being peddled by the likes of VM and Bhtee
that are thin on facts and loose on professional delivery.
Local council and government funding should be given priority
to gigabit pure fibre optic companies delivering minimum 1gbit FTTP
symmetric DSL services capped at 50 pounds retail, noting the average
service provider is able to deliver it at under £30 per month.

All tax payer funding to the likes of Bhttee and VM should be stopped
immediately in favour of pure fibre companies.
The market is expected to be dominated by fibre
companies installing fibre in 1 meter shallow dug plastic pipes
as they don't carry electric cables which would otherwise require
deeper tunnels and stronger ducts causing extensive disruption.
Cumpanies like Bhtee and VM that use less than 1% of the internet
with their telephony and teevee data would become the 1% customers
of the new fibre companies.

Local councils and regulators should pressure Bhtee and VM to remove all
their unnecessary copper from their ducts with incentives such as fines
and sell it for scrap and recycling, and switch to using pure fibre
providers to deliver their services to UK customers.
Tony Dragon
2017-12-23 13:37:14 UTC
Permalink
Post by 7
Post by Tony Dragon
So no answer then, strange that.
Nothing should be strange for a snowflake internet troll
out protecting BT (British Telecum) interests.
<snip>

Do tell us why you have not started a company that can do what you say.

If you do not have the money, build a business case and ask a bank to
invest, if all is as you say they will loan you the cash with no problems.
7
2017-12-24 14:00:46 UTC
Permalink
Post by Tony Dragon
Post by 7
Post by Tony Dragon
So no answer then, strange that.
Nothing should be strange for a snowflake internet troll
out protecting BT (British Telecum) interests.
<snip>
Do tell us why
You need to read the original poost and it will steer you
in the correct direction for asking important questions.

Of course if you have no grasp, then you should read
poosted material and weep until you graduate:




Who values BT (British Telecum) Shiit investments?
--------------------------------------------------

Offcum values BT (British Telecum) Shiit investments.

Offcum are experts at protecting BT shiit investments by
illegally holding shiit's shares and working on behalf
or BT selling copper adsl to government instead of
full fibre internet at 1/20th the price for 1gbit links.

Openroach values BT Shiit for investments.

Openroach are experts at giving customers a shiit service
and blow jobs at double price, double effort and half the
productivity of everyone else.


If Government or a local council or a business
asked BT (British Telecum) or Offcon or Openroach
a price for internet, they would have lied to your
face in full.

If Government or a local council or a business
asked BT (British Telecum) or Offcon or Openroach
a price for broadband, they would have told you the truth.

What is the difference between asking the price
for 10mbit broadband and asking the price for industry
standard full fibre internet node cheapest
option connecting up a country with best bandwidth
to price ratio?

Internet can be provisioned at 1/20th the price of
broadband. Broadband, shiit's investment, services
can only be delivered with copper.
It requires electrical cable, brick lined tunnels,
water ingress protection, lightening protection,
deeper digs, telegraph poles for distribution,
ADSL modems for every line, fibre modems at each cabinet,
complex machinery for provisioning different upload
and download speed.

While internet can be provisioned with fibre
at 1/20th the price because the fibres don't need
brick lined tunnels and doesn't any complex modems
or machinery for complex upload/download speed controls.
500 fibres can be had from about $2 per meter.
Its cheaper than copper. And you can install the entire
cable in one step instead of asking openroach to
install an empty tube and then blow job a fibre through
that *fscking* empty tube - effectively double the work
and half the productivity and shiit for service while
everyone else install once by installing the fibre cable directly.

And why is Hammond giving away £3000 per business
for full fibre internet to Openroach and BT
when that is normally installed for £250 to £500 by
other companies?

Isn't that called fraud if other companies
are already doing it while BT offcum openroach
can't do it?

And why is government not asking telecom
companies and offcum the asking price for industry
standard full fibre internet 1gbit node cheapest
option connecting up a country with best bandwidth
to price ratio and instead ask the price
of 10mbit ADSL which is 20x expensive than 1gbit fibre?
I can understand if the powers in government that
do all the asking are BT (British Telecum) Shiit
shareholders seeking value for their shiit
investment. But that is called fraud.
Definitely not serving UK brexshit plc.

Even 3rd world country like Azerbaijan has
double the mobile internet speed.
(Among numerous other countries.)
That means their telecom masts are all fibred up.
While in the UK that can't happen when Openroach
BT Offcum are holding their hands out for
£6000 pounds install fee and £6000 annual charges.
All the while 800,000 substantial rural areas
are fibred up with 1gbit services for under £50
per month in UK. So why can't the mobile operators get
their £50 per month gigabit fibre?
Because BT's shiite investors with their shiit
for brains 10mbit ADSL junk conning government
and committing daily fraud.

Japan already has 97% pure fibre.
If brexshit plc is going to compete, it needs
more than deregulation. The best option
is to dump BT shiit investor concerns
and hand all the contracts out to full fibre
companies at the going rate of no more than
£250 to £500 per connection and £50 per month.
Shiit's investors will scream and fsck off and die
but you got better internet for it while
shiite investors have got shiit in their face
for delaying UK plc.



BT (British Telecum) Openroach giving double blow jobs with fibre
-----------------------------------------------------------------

<blow> <blow> <blow> ... <job> <job> <job>!!

That is the sound of bhtee offcum openroach krone tool
master baiters installing fibre.

Double the price, half the productivity, half the efficiency,
and twice the manpower with Bhtee Openroach approach.

Openroach are already missed their own deadlines for rolling
out fibre.

The clue is here is that no one uses these out dated
practices except BT offcum openroach.

How low can these super thick management trolls get?

It cost about £1 to £2 per meter for a couple of hundred
core fibre. So why does BT openroach offcum trolls
install an empty fibre tube and then spend double time
blowing one fibre at a time through the empty tube
with a blow job?

May be they miss krone tool master bation and
now resort to giving customers blow jobs on site?

Double the time, double the effort, double the cost
and very few fibres get installed.

No one does this.

Everyone just installs once the 500+ fibre bundle cores
and leave plenty of spare capacity for cabling
up the rest of Brexshitting UK plc at a lower cost than
install tube and then fibre one fibre at a time.

The fsking p ricks at offcum BT (British Telecum) Openroach
should be relieved of their franchise and exclusive
access to markets and ducts with immediate effect.

All the street ducts should be confiscated by an agnostic
body and charged according to per cm cross sectional
area. So if you install a empty tube 1cm cross section
to blow one fibre, you fsck yourself in the rear
when someone else installs a 1cm cable with 500 fibres
for the same price and connect up 500 more customers
than management trolls and their blow jobs ever will.

This kind of telecum malpractice means no one in the City
is ever going to connected with high speed fibre optic internet
because every tall rise building now needs something
as large as Eurotunnel to cable up with hollow tubes
and one fibre at a time being run through them with a blow job.

What a fskcing mess!!



Offcum BT bins all Mobile Ads costing hundreds of millions
----------------------------------------------------------

Offcum BT (British Telecum) Openroach VM et al
bins Mobile Ads costing hundreds of millions of dollars to
make because there aren't any mobile masts to distribute
these ads to mobile phone users while they are travelling
in trains, buses, underground tube, taxis etc.

Transpurt for Londonistan is proud telling Christmas shoppers
and foreign visitors to go and stuff it as customers
see connection lost signals
and buffering rings go round and round and round..

In China no such problem which leaves all China tourists bemused
as to why UK has become such a third rate stone age country.

Transpurt for Londinistan can't afford the £6000 install fee for fibre
and 6000 pound per annum fee for each and every *FSCKING* fibre
while companies like B4RN, Hyperoptic etc are charging under
£50 per month for the same 1 gbit fibre service.

The Mayor of Londinistan is wahahahaking off about Boris
when he should be whahahahanking off about BT, Offcum, Openroach
et al who collectively between them has left Londinistan
as the most disconnected city in the world with no pure fibre network.

Even in near third world countries like China, there is no
disconnection as you travel inside big buildings, go into
the underground, travel the tubes, and take overground trains
and travel hundreds of miles.

Even Paris, Londonistani's closest competitor has full fibre
for all its 2 million residents.

Offcum needs to be broken up because the City's
PSD2 is not happening either because again there
are no mobile phone masts and fibre connections to fibre
routers available despite bwanks spending billions getting
it ready and dozens of start ups are spending all their money to make
it all work on mobile phone apps.

Come Christmas, Boxing Day shopping, and New Year shopping,
all the ads that are meant to be delivered to Brexshitting mobile users
will not be delivered while connections are lost 2 hours of the day
average and buffering rings go round and round for millions
of customers for average 2 hours a day while they sit in
buses, taxis, underground tube and trains trying to place orders.

The problem is unfixable for Christmas in 4 weeks time.

Lost sales and ad revenue is going to be in the billions for this
coming Christmas - far more than cost of sacking
the lot at Offcum and replacing it with full fibre directors from B4RN,
Hyperoptic, Cityfibre etc.




Offcum BT lose 1 billion Black Friday sales for retailers
---------------------------------------------------------

Offcum BT (British Telecum) Openroach VM et al lose 1 billion of
Black Friday sales for retailers.

Retailers are saying *FSCKING* thanks a lot to the telecum retards.

A lot of people sat 2 or more hours today watching
connection lost, and buffering rings going round and round and round
in tubes, trains, and buses wondering why they can't click on
a simple bargain order while in China you can do this on moving trains,
moving underground tube trains, on buses in towns and villages
and anywhere else where there is civilization.

All the Lards Ladies Pooliticians doing the

1. Stand up fastly
2. Troll
3. Sit down fastly

routine in UK could not deregulate and abolish Offcum
to save Black Friday. Being comatozed on

1. Stand up fastly
2. Troll
3. Sit down fastly

routines, they have no incentive to change anything when
country is sinking to lowest ever productivity and instead
parade themselves on camera for attention talking
up Brexshit according to what their hallucinations tell
them is important. So expect all of Christmas and New Year
to be spent watching more connection lost and buffering rings
going round and round and round thanks to the pooliticians.

While Oxford street gets the full anti-terror treatment today,
there are not enough cameras to relay the signals
because it all requires fibre optic signals and at £6000 install
fee + £6000 per annum for line rental it ain't
gonna make security happen. At least not according to offcum.
Not even while B4RN, Hyperoptic, Citifibre etc are installing
1 gibit fibre for under £50 a month and have cabled up 800,000+
homes already including the most remote villages and houses
by B4RN for £30 a month for 1gbit fibre.

PSD2 is not happening either because it requires a lot of
mobile phone masts connected with fibre to fibre optic routers.
Which ain't gonna happen at £6000 per install and £6000 per
annum fake fees. So billions being spent by the bwanks and all
the startup companies into new PSD2 services and apps will
not be getting any new mobile customers using it.

The fake fibre epidemic gripping UK is driven by Offcum regulator
that allows people to be conned by BT VM Openroach Pusnet Ski
into believing they got
the best when in reality they got fake fibre.

A gamer buying £1000 gaming card, and £2000
OLED monitor and £1500 gaming PC to play games ain't gonna
get anything more serious than buffering rings going round and
round and round.. They gonna lose their game to some retard in
Paris or near third world country like Portugal where
it is all fibre running 1 gbit easy.




PSD2 - BT (British Telecum) Offcum Openroach sez FSCKIT you ain't having it
---------------------------------------------------------------------------

This fsckit and you ain't havin it management troll approach to
pure fibre, gigabit fibre and fibre internet by Offcum and its babies
BT (British Telecum) Openroach VM etc now threatens PSD2.

Payment Services Directive 2 liberates payment information
so that companies other than banks can do your transactions from
ALL mobiles and browsers anywhere on the internet.
Numerous small app business will now be able to do the same
things that bwanks can do at a fraction of the cost
through your account that only bwanks
previously allowed themselves to do to grab hefty fees
as no one else were allowed to touch that data.

This of course requires all mobiles to have connections to
a mast with a fibre link to gigabit routers or the
infrastructure won't work.

It requires small businesses that offer these
services to have gigabit fibre optic links to process payments
and host their developer servers and tools.


BT (British Telecum) Offcum Openroach sez FSCKIT you ain't having it.


QUUAAAAACCCKkkkkkkhhh.....!!!


BT (British Telecum) Offcum Openroach et al are going to fsck you
from behind until you love them.

And give up PSD2 because you ain't having pure fibre internet.

All the efforts of PSD2 by bwankers and Fintech IoT businesses
are toast because there is no fibre in UK.

In Paris, all 2 million citizens have gigabit fibre internet.

So with Brexshit, you may as well move to France then.

All those things said by the Chancellor Hammond in his budget
speech yesterday about running towards change is for the
birds, the bees and pooliticians. Not for BT (Britsh Telecum)
Offcum, VM, Openroach etc selling fake fibre.






Offconn's Bhtee Telecum fsckies have fsckied again
--------------------------------------------------


https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2017/11/competition-tribunal-upholds-dark-fibre-uk-market-definitions-ruling.html


Brexshit is around the corner when we all need 10gbit internet
to every home to compete in the world and make money
butt, bhtee fsckies and bhtee fsckied insiders in offconn
have done it again.

"Ofcom’s flawed approach was unduly fixated on a ‘make do and mend’
strategy of squeezing economic value out of BT’s existing legacy network, "


WHAT THE *FSCK* DO OFFCONN THINK THEY ARE DOING?????????????

The *fscking* lot of them need to be sacked immediately!!!

They are *NOT* employees of Bhtee to be *fscking* about with
UK telecom market and helping Bhtee.

They are *NOT* employees of Bhtee to be *fscking* in courts
on behalf of Bhtee.

Political action required.

All the companies in the City and their global competitiveness
have been sold down the river because of
Bhtee and Offconn helping each other illegally.


Fake fibre sold by VM BT Offconn Openroach no good for gaming and social
media
------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Gigaclear, Cityfibre and Hyperoptic have all complained to Advertising
Standards Authority (ASA), but they still no action since 2008.

https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2017/06/full-fibre-isps-call-asa-stop-misleading-uk-fibre-broadband-adverts.html

BT (British Telecum) offers similar upload speed to VM on 200mbit
service, but neither come close to similar priced products
from Gigaclear, Cityfibre and Hyperoptic with up to 1 gbit upload
speed enough for gaming, fast social media uploads, and for
whole family to use at the same time without compromising each
other's Internet experience.

The City is being overcharged and conned as well.
Their entire infrastructure is being overcharged and crippled
by BT (Brititsh Telecum) and encumbants.
City trading is 1000% crippled by slow internet
because British Telecum and Openroach don't know how
to install fibre with FPGA routers.

B4N has cabled up 20,000+ rural connection
and is offering down to £30 per month for 1gbit in rural
communities which shirt and tie fscktarts like VM and BT
(British Telecum) don't know how to cable up.

With the help of Offconn, these encumbants are charging
government £4000 per install when the actual costs
are below £250 per install for fibre.

There needs to be separate investigation with reps
from Gigaclear, Citifibre, Hyperoptic, B4RN etc
in the panel holding an parliamentary inquiry into
why the encumbants VM BT (British Telecum), Openroach
and Offconn have all been in it together to con
the UK government out of billions for services
they did not deliver.



I managed to install 1gbit pure fibre in the home for $41.15
------------------------------------------------------------

$12.11 30m fiber optic cable - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-Shipping-SM-SX-3mm-30M-9-125um-30-Meters-Fiber-Optic-Jumper-Cable-SC-UPC/32619865490.html
$29.04 2 x ethernet to fiber - media converter -
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/HTB-GS-03-A-B-Gigabit-Fiber-Optical-Media-Converter-1000Mbps-Single-Mode-Single-Fiber-SC/32450387383.html

30m of pure fibre - only one required as the fibre media converter
is bidirectional and operates at 1Gbits down the single cable.

The fibre is SC-SC connector.

The media converter has SC connector - connect only to
the TX (and ignore RX marked socket) on both transceivers with single
SC-SC connector.

Connect PC to one transceiver ethernet socket, and other transceiver to
the ethernet switch and hey presto, you got 30M fibre linked
optically! :)

It took me all of 3 minutes to get it operational! :)

If you tried to do this about a year or more ago,
you would be out of pocket by a couple of hundred quid.
Today you can do it for £30 - which is just unbelievable.

Cables 100m, 300m and 500m available to link
PCs in garden sheds or extensions back to the switch or
to a router.

If you are linking farm houses together, neighbours
together in a village or linking offices in
a compound together, the procedure is effortlessly
the same. If you can, make your own cables with a bit of practice:

cleaver -$62- https://www.aliexpress.com/item/9-In-1-Fiber-Optic-FTTH-Tool-Kit-with-FC-6S-Fiber-Cleaver-and-Optical-Power/32647289225.html
sleeves - 5 cents - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1000Pcs-OD2-4-45mm-Fiber-Optic-Fusion-Splice-Protection-Sleeves-Fiber-Cable-Protector-Heat-Shrink-Tube/32732857639.html
gigabit transceiver: 20km/1000BASE-LX - $17
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/SFP-Fiber-Optic-Transceiver-1000BASE-LX-SFP-MINI-GBIC-modules-Compatible-for-CISCO-glc-lh-sm/710717277.html
64 way splitter $85 - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/SC-1X64-PLC-Singlemode-Fiber-Optical-splitter-FTTH-PLC-Steel-tube-type-FBT-PLC-optical-fiber/32476975506.html
fibre - --$375/km https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Fiber-Cable-Multimode-2core-Indoor-fiber-optic-cable-Duplex-Zipcord-PCV-jacket-3-0mm-Orange/793795646.html
Fiber junction box - $7 https://www.aliexpress.com/item/KELUSHI-wholesale-FTTH-FTTH-fiber-panel-fiber-optic-terminal-junction-box-86-information-panels-86-Desktop/32598550478.html

If you are linking together ethernet equipment on different
phases (such as large buildings, or multi-storey offices)
then fibre is the way to go to prevent electrical signals
between the different phases damaging equipment (because
the net voltage difference between the phases can be
415V instead of 240V, and all of that meets in your switch
or router or a PC which is terrible news if there is
a problem).

The world is changing - even though I got fibre in the
home, and live in London, there is nowhere to plug
it into on the street, while the rest of the country,
at least 3% of it has fibre, along with many cities,
for under £50 a month, but not London.

Its an absolute terrible crime what offconn has
done to London. They should hang their heads
in shame and go dunk themselves in river Thames.
Hopefully the replacements are pro-fiber and pure
fibre company directors with a vested interest
in ensuring their under £50 a month fibre companies
are cleared to expand into London at
maximum possible pace.



Paris gets FTTH to all its 2 million inhabitants - Nothing for London
---------------------------------------------------------------------

Sacra bleau!

Paris now has over 2 million FTTH 1 gigabit symmetric DSL (equal upload
and download speed) but London has NOTHING.

A big thank you goes out to *FSCKTARDS* at offconn for being
the vehicle for this.

We need names in front of TV instead fcktards going into hiding and
get out there explaining why Londoners (all 7 million of them, more than
10%
of
UK population concentrated into one place) cannot have their
FTTH 1 gigabit symmetric DSL connection with equal upload and
download speeds starting at £30 per month to £50 per month
while 3% of the country already has it from the likes of
B4RN, Hyperoptic, Gigaclear, FibreCity etc., and other countries
and big cities like Paris that are competitors have fully cabled up FTTH.
In Sweden you got 30 providers per city while there are zero
providers in London.

So why can't these fsktards at offconn resign and let some
other authority be set up to that are pro-fibre and let Londoners
have fibre to the home?

It pushes up the value of London by at leas 2 billion pounds.
And each and every city can add the same value now that
we are brexshitting and have to have this technology to be
competitive.

All it requires is some trolls to be spanked and sacked in
Offconn, and replaced with pro-fibre interest commercial
managers and bob is your uncle - value of UK goes up by
at least 50 billion when 25 cities and towns get cabled up
with fibre.


Angiewireless rolling out 10gbit fibre
--------------------------------------

https://www.angiewireless.co.uk/your-city/

Bhtee VM Openroach all shiitting in their pants
and master baiting even faster with their
krone tool master bation nation tools.

These Bhtee VM Openroach and their racketeering
protection organization offconn don't use 1% of
a gigabit internet connection delivering their pone collection
traffic and teeveee looped box set collection traffic.

Most of this looped teevee is not even watched
because more than 50% of the people on the internet
prefer to watch youtube and the like :)

Bhtee has no understanding of this reality as they go all out
thieving pensioners to fund Bhtee teevee,
and VM even less charging more every day for content
that is unwatchable with nearly 30 minutes of ads per
30 minutes of looped videos. Its easier to watch youtube :)

And gigabit fibre upload speeds are same as download speeds
because its a hundred times cheaper to do it that way,
which means streaming your work for millions to watch
or uploading content in a fraction of the time compared
to Bhtee VM networks that takes several hours to upload a video.

So what are they to do with 10gbit fibre companies
that have already achieved massive roll out
across the globe?

Are they going to sell all their assets
and be the 0.1% customers of these 10gbit companies now?

They have no choice but to sell their phone copper network
and teevee cable network for scrap and become the 0.1% customers
of 10gbit fibre companies.

Fibre costs 100th the price to lay down because their
ducts can be buried 200mm to 1m below the surface.
These ducts don't need strength as there is no electricity,
gas, water or sewage that can spill out if they got dug up
which requires strong ducts to be erected.

A small team can lay 2km of fibre network every day.
The cost of cabling up the entire UK is £6.5 billion,
and revenues first year is £15 billion minimum,
enough to pay it all back.

The retail costs of equipment now ridiculously low (wholesale cheaper):

cleaver -$62- https://www.aliexpress.com/item/9-In-1-Fiber-Optic-FTTH-Tool-Kit-with-FC-6S-Fiber-Cleaver-and-Optical-Power/32647289225.html

sleeves - 5 cents - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1000Pcs-OD2-4-45mm-Fiber-Optic-Fusion-Splice-Protection-Sleeves-Fiber-Cable-Protector-Heat-Shrink-Tube/32732857639.html

gigabit transceiver: 20km/1000BASE-LX - $17
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/SFP-Fiber-Optic-Transceiver-1000BASE-LX-SFP-MINI-GBIC-modules-Compatible-for-CISCO-glc-lh-sm/710717277.html

64 way splitter $85 - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/SC-1X64-PLC-Singlemode-Fiber-Optical-splitter-FTTH-PLC-Steel-tube-type-FBT-PLC-optical-fiber/32476975506.html

fibre - --$375/km https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Fiber-Cable-Multimode-2core-Indoor-fiber-optic-cable-Duplex-Zipcord-PCV-jacket-3-0mm-Orange/793795646.html

Fiber junction box - $7 https://www.aliexpress.com/item/KELUSHI-wholesale-FTTH-FTTH-fiber-panel-fiber-optic-terminal-junction-box-86-information-panels-86-Desktop/32598550478.html

If you send your buyers to China and source all the kit directly,
you can get it much cheaper by the container load.

Your container may cost £2000, but you can bring across £200,000 pounds
worth of stuff
and be making £1 million by the end of a few months.
The only things that hold everyone back is the local councils that
are hell bent pricks on wheels catering to offconn, bhtee and VM interest
and requiring 50 miles of paperwork for 5 miles of fibre.

If you elect to get rid of them and replace it with
fibre friendly councillors in elections 2 months, then
who knows, you could have gigabit symmetric fibre before the
end of the year :)

70% of UK businesses and farms are worried about not getting
fibre into their premises. Bhttee offconn VM Openroach have
no plans to deliver £50 1 gigabit symmetric fibre to the home by 2020
despite 3% of UK households having it wired by non encumbants
like Hyperoptic, Gigaclear, B4RN, Cityfibre, Angiewireless and so on.

So smart alecs with businesses to run and employees to pay
need to push out the unfriendly types from government
and councils and get their fibre friendly councillors into office asap.


Bhtee VM accidentally leak their FTTP equipment prices
------------------------------------------------------

Not.

So I'm setting up BhteeVM_Leeks_WebShite.com web with retail price
list for these items (wholesale cheaper):

64 way splitter $85 - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/SC-1X64-PLC-Singlemode-Fiber-Optical-splitter-FTTH-PLC-Steel-tube-type-FBT-PLC-optical-fiber/32476975506.html

fibre - --$375/km https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Fiber-Cable-Multimode-2core-Indoor-fiber-optic-cable-Duplex-Zipcord-PCV-jacket-3-0mm-Orange/793795646.html

cleaver -$62- https://www.aliexpress.com/item/9-In-1-Fiber-Optic-FTTH-Tool-Kit-with-FC-6S-Fiber-Cleaver-and-Optical-Power/32647289225.html

sleeves - 5 cents - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1000Pcs-OD2-4-45mm-Fiber-Optic-Fusion-Splice-Protection-Sleeves-Fiber-Cable-Protector-Heat-Shrink-Tube/32732857639.html

gigabit transceiver: 20km/1000BASE-LX - $17
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/SFP-Fiber-Optic-Transceiver-1000BASE-LX-SFP-MINI-GBIC-modules-Compatible-for-CISCO-glc-lh-sm/710717277.html

The best way to build routers is to hire FPGA engineers and build the
routers yourself from FPGA and scale up
rapidly
by building copies of own boards.

Otherwise have to purchase say a Cisco router upward £30,000.
Instead pay FPGA engineer £60,000 for 6 months to create as many FPGA boards
as you need for routers.

Examples of what can be done:
https://www.xes-inc.com/products/fpgas/xpedite2402/
https://www.broadcom.com/optical_fpga

IoD calls for 10Gbit fibre
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35681475

Anyone can get into fibre as the trenches are shallow (less than 1m deep)
and carry no electricity - farmer's wifey has done it! :)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-37974267

Farmer's wifey runs pure fibre.
And delivers 1 gigabit fibre symmetric DSL with equal upload and download
speeds
at prices around 30 pounds per month. Bhtee and VM are choking on it and
master baiting
with their krone tools as fast as they can.

So when Bhtee charge 6000 pounds per year for their 1gbit service when we
know their
equipment costs are next to nothing now.
They need to pay all the customers this money back because it is illegal
to overcharge and kidnap all that money to fund subsidies for bhtee teevee
which they have been doing illegally for a long time.


Bhtee and VM can't even use 1% of the capacity with their teeevee and phone
services.
They could instead ask B4RN to install gigabit fibre for them and become
their 1% customer and still everyone will make money.

So when Bhtee charge 6000 pounds per year for their 1gbit service, they
need to be told it must reflect costs as described above,
and any overcharging should be treated like PPI mis-selling
and needs to be paid back to customer from investor profit.

The regulators are in cahoots with Bhtee VM and should be got rid of
and replaced by pure fibre companies and reps.

It could be at least 10 years before bhteee and vm pay back
their over charged customers.

With real prices out in the open for FTTP kit, anyone can
go buy the kit and start laying fibre and make their own
companies. The only way to encourage startups is to deregulate.

With such low FTTP equipment costs,
its not difficult to see why companies like
Talk Talk is investing 5 million pounds
in Yorkshire to wire up 20,000 homes.
Revenue is easily 1 million pounds a month.
Everything paid for in under a year potentially.


Bhtee VM fails 2020 open market review
--------------------------------------

Bhtee and VM fail 2020 open market review to deliver
1Gbit symmetric DSL fibre to premises FTTP for £50 in a test
of free market.

By year 2020 no one in Bhtee or VM will deliver FTTP service
in UK at £50 per month.

This is despite Hyperoptic, Gigaclear, B4RN and many others
delivering 2% of UK infrastructure on 1Gbit symmetric DSL FTTP today.

Councils in England Wales Scotland and Northern Ireland warned
not to deal with Bhtee and VM roping them into expensive out
dated technology being peddled by the likes of VM and Bhtee
that are thin on facts and loose on professional delivery.
Local council and government funding should be given priority
to gigabit pure fibre optic companies delivering minimum 1gbit FTTP
symmetric DSL services capped at 50 pounds retail, noting the average
service provider is able to deliver it at under £30 per month.

All tax payer funding to the likes of Bhttee and VM should be stopped
immediately in favour of pure fibre companies.
The market is expected to be dominated by fibre
companies installing fibre in 1 meter shallow dug plastic pipes
as they don't carry electric cables which would otherwise require
deeper tunnels and stronger ducts causing extensive disruption.
Cumpanies like Bhtee and VM that use less than 1% of the internet
with their telephony and teevee data would become the 1% customers
of the new fibre companies.

Local councils and regulators should pressure Bhtee and VM to remove all
their unnecessary copper from their ducts with incentives such as fines
and sell it for scrap and recycling, and switch to using pure fibre
providers to deliver their services to UK customers.
Tony Dragon
2017-12-24 17:59:57 UTC
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Post by Tony Dragon
So no answer then, strange that.
Nothing should be strange for a snowflake internet troll
out protecting BT (British Telecum) interests.
<snip>
Do tell us why
You need to read the original poost and it will steer you
in the correct direction for asking important questions.
Of course if you have no grasp, then you should read
<snip>

Either post the answer or just admit that you can not.
7
2017-12-24 21:50:20 UTC
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Post by 7
Post by Tony Dragon
Post by 7
Post by Tony Dragon
So no answer then, strange that.
Nothing should be strange for a snowflake internet troll
out protecting BT (British Telecum) interests.
<snip>
Do tell us why
You need to read the original poost and it will steer you
in the correct direction for asking important questions.
Either post the answer or just admit that you can not.
So you are admitting to not reading the original post
that could steer you in the correct direction
for asking important question.

You need to read the original poost and it will steer you
in the correct direction for asking important questions.

Of course if you have no grasp, then you should read
poosted material and weep until you graduate:




Who values BT (British Telecum) Shiit investments?
--------------------------------------------------

Offcum values BT (British Telecum) Shiit investments.

Offcum are experts at protecting BT shiit investments by
illegally holding shiit's shares and working on behalf
or BT selling copper adsl to government instead of
full fibre internet at 1/20th the price for 1gbit links.

Openroach values BT Shiit for investments.

Openroach are experts at giving customers a shiit service
and blow jobs at double price, double effort and half the
productivity of everyone else.


If Government or a local council or a business
asked BT (British Telecum) or Offcon or Openroach
a price for internet, they would have lied to your
face in full.

If Government or a local council or a business
asked BT (British Telecum) or Offcon or Openroach
a price for broadband, they would have told you the truth.

What is the difference between asking the price
for 10mbit broadband and asking the price for industry
standard full fibre internet node cheapest
option connecting up a country with best bandwidth
to price ratio?

Internet can be provisioned at 1/20th the price of
broadband. Broadband, shiit's investment, services
can only be delivered with copper.
It requires electrical cable, brick lined tunnels,
water ingress protection, lightening protection,
deeper digs, telegraph poles for distribution,
ADSL modems for every line, fibre modems at each cabinet,
complex machinery for provisioning different upload
and download speed.

While internet can be provisioned with fibre
at 1/20th the price because the fibres don't need
brick lined tunnels and doesn't any complex modems
or machinery for complex upload/download speed controls.
500 fibres can be had from about $2 per meter.
Its cheaper than copper. And you can install the entire
cable in one step instead of asking openroach to
install an empty tube and then blow job a fibre through
that *fscking* empty tube - effectively double the work
and half the productivity and shiit for service while
everyone else install once by installing the fibre cable directly.

And why is Hammond giving away £3000 per business
for full fibre internet to Openroach and BT
when that is normally installed for £250 to £500 by
other companies?

Isn't that called fraud if other companies
are already doing it while BT offcum openroach
can't do it?

And why is government not asking telecom
companies and offcum the asking price for industry
standard full fibre internet 1gbit node cheapest
option connecting up a country with best bandwidth
to price ratio and instead ask the price
of 10mbit ADSL which is 20x expensive than 1gbit fibre?
I can understand if the powers in government that
do all the asking are BT (British Telecum) Shiit
shareholders seeking value for their shiit
investment. But that is called fraud.
Definitely not serving UK brexshit plc.

Even 3rd world country like Azerbaijan has
double the mobile internet speed.
(Among numerous other countries.)
That means their telecom masts are all fibred up.
While in the UK that can't happen when Openroach
BT Offcum are holding their hands out for
£6000 pounds install fee and £6000 annual charges.
All the while 800,000 substantial rural areas
are fibred up with 1gbit services for under £50
per month in UK. So why can't the mobile operators get
their £50 per month gigabit fibre?
Because BT's shiite investors with their shiit
for brains 10mbit ADSL junk conning government
and committing daily fraud.

Japan already has 97% pure fibre.
If brexshit plc is going to compete, it needs
more than deregulation. The best option
is to dump BT shiit investor concerns
and hand all the contracts out to full fibre
companies at the going rate of no more than
£250 to £500 per connection and £50 per month.
Shiit's investors will scream and fsck off and die
but you got better internet for it while
shiite investors have got shiit in their face
for delaying UK plc.



BT (British Telecum) Openroach giving double blow jobs with fibre
-----------------------------------------------------------------

<blow> <blow> <blow> ... <job> <job> <job>!!

That is the sound of bhtee offcum openroach krone tool
master baiters installing fibre.

Double the price, half the productivity, half the efficiency,
and twice the manpower with Bhtee Openroach approach.

Openroach are already missed their own deadlines for rolling
out fibre.

The clue is here is that no one uses these out dated
practices except BT offcum openroach.

How low can these super thick management trolls get?

It cost about £1 to £2 per meter for a couple of hundred
core fibre. So why does BT openroach offcum trolls
install an empty fibre tube and then spend double time
blowing one fibre at a time through the empty tube
with a blow job?

May be they miss krone tool master bation and
now resort to giving customers blow jobs on site?

Double the time, double the effort, double the cost
and very few fibres get installed.

No one does this.

Everyone just installs once the 500+ fibre bundle cores
and leave plenty of spare capacity for cabling
up the rest of Brexshitting UK plc at a lower cost than
install tube and then fibre one fibre at a time.

The fsking p ricks at offcum BT (British Telecum) Openroach
should be relieved of their franchise and exclusive
access to markets and ducts with immediate effect.

All the street ducts should be confiscated by an agnostic
body and charged according to per cm cross sectional
area. So if you install a empty tube 1cm cross section
to blow one fibre, you fsck yourself in the rear
when someone else installs a 1cm cable with 500 fibres
for the same price and connect up 500 more customers
than management trolls and their blow jobs ever will.

This kind of telecum malpractice means no one in the City
is ever going to connected with high speed fibre optic internet
because every tall rise building now needs something
as large as Eurotunnel to cable up with hollow tubes
and one fibre at a time being run through them with a blow job.

What a fskcing mess!!



Offcum BT bins all Mobile Ads costing hundreds of millions
----------------------------------------------------------

Offcum BT (British Telecum) Openroach VM et al
bins Mobile Ads costing hundreds of millions of dollars to
make because there aren't any mobile masts to distribute
these ads to mobile phone users while they are travelling
in trains, buses, underground tube, taxis etc.

Transpurt for Londonistan is proud telling Christmas shoppers
and foreign visitors to go and stuff it as customers
see connection lost signals
and buffering rings go round and round and round..

In China no such problem which leaves all China tourists bemused
as to why UK has become such a third rate stone age country.

Transpurt for Londinistan can't afford the £6000 install fee for fibre
and 6000 pound per annum fee for each and every *FSCKING* fibre
while companies like B4RN, Hyperoptic etc are charging under
£50 per month for the same 1 gbit fibre service.

The Mayor of Londinistan is wahahahaking off about Boris
when he should be whahahahanking off about BT, Offcum, Openroach
et al who collectively between them has left Londinistan
as the most disconnected city in the world with no pure fibre network.

Even in near third world countries like China, there is no
disconnection as you travel inside big buildings, go into
the underground, travel the tubes, and take overground trains
and travel hundreds of miles.

Even Paris, Londonistani's closest competitor has full fibre
for all its 2 million residents.

Offcum needs to be broken up because the City's
PSD2 is not happening either because again there
are no mobile phone masts and fibre connections to fibre
routers available despite bwanks spending billions getting
it ready and dozens of start ups are spending all their money to make
it all work on mobile phone apps.

Come Christmas, Boxing Day shopping, and New Year shopping,
all the ads that are meant to be delivered to Brexshitting mobile users
will not be delivered while connections are lost 2 hours of the day
average and buffering rings go round and round for millions
of customers for average 2 hours a day while they sit in
buses, taxis, underground tube and trains trying to place orders.

The problem is unfixable for Christmas in 4 weeks time.

Lost sales and ad revenue is going to be in the billions for this
coming Christmas - far more than cost of sacking
the lot at Offcum and replacing it with full fibre directors from B4RN,
Hyperoptic, Cityfibre etc.




Offcum BT lose 1 billion Black Friday sales for retailers
---------------------------------------------------------

Offcum BT (British Telecum) Openroach VM et al lose 1 billion of
Black Friday sales for retailers.

Retailers are saying *FSCKING* thanks a lot to the telecum retards.

A lot of people sat 2 or more hours today watching
connection lost, and buffering rings going round and round and round
in tubes, trains, and buses wondering why they can't click on
a simple bargain order while in China you can do this on moving trains,
moving underground tube trains, on buses in towns and villages
and anywhere else where there is civilization.

All the Lards Ladies Pooliticians doing the

1. Stand up fastly
2. Troll
3. Sit down fastly

routine in UK could not deregulate and abolish Offcum
to save Black Friday. Being comatozed on

1. Stand up fastly
2. Troll
3. Sit down fastly

routines, they have no incentive to change anything when
country is sinking to lowest ever productivity and instead
parade themselves on camera for attention talking
up Brexshit according to what their hallucinations tell
them is important. So expect all of Christmas and New Year
to be spent watching more connection lost and buffering rings
going round and round and round thanks to the pooliticians.

While Oxford street gets the full anti-terror treatment today,
there are not enough cameras to relay the signals
because it all requires fibre optic signals and at £6000 install
fee + £6000 per annum for line rental it ain't
gonna make security happen. At least not according to offcum.
Not even while B4RN, Hyperoptic, Citifibre etc are installing
1 gibit fibre for under £50 a month and have cabled up 800,000+
homes already including the most remote villages and houses
by B4RN for £30 a month for 1gbit fibre.

PSD2 is not happening either because it requires a lot of
mobile phone masts connected with fibre to fibre optic routers.
Which ain't gonna happen at £6000 per install and £6000 per
annum fake fees. So billions being spent by the bwanks and all
the startup companies into new PSD2 services and apps will
not be getting any new mobile customers using it.

The fake fibre epidemic gripping UK is driven by Offcum regulator
that allows people to be conned by BT VM Openroach Pusnet Ski
into believing they got
the best when in reality they got fake fibre.

A gamer buying £1000 gaming card, and £2000
OLED monitor and £1500 gaming PC to play games ain't gonna
get anything more serious than buffering rings going round and
round and round.. They gonna lose their game to some retard in
Paris or near third world country like Portugal where
it is all fibre running 1 gbit easy.




PSD2 - BT (British Telecum) Offcum Openroach sez FSCKIT you ain't having it
---------------------------------------------------------------------------

This fsckit and you ain't havin it management troll approach to
pure fibre, gigabit fibre and fibre internet by Offcum and its babies
BT (British Telecum) Openroach VM etc now threatens PSD2.

Payment Services Directive 2 liberates payment information
so that companies other than banks can do your transactions from
ALL mobiles and browsers anywhere on the internet.
Numerous small app business will now be able to do the same
things that bwanks can do at a fraction of the cost
through your account that only bwanks
previously allowed themselves to do to grab hefty fees
as no one else were allowed to touch that data.

This of course requires all mobiles to have connections to
a mast with a fibre link to gigabit routers or the
infrastructure won't work.

It requires small businesses that offer these
services to have gigabit fibre optic links to process payments
and host their developer servers and tools.


BT (British Telecum) Offcum Openroach sez FSCKIT you ain't having it.


QUUAAAAACCCKkkkkkkhhh.....!!!


BT (British Telecum) Offcum Openroach et al are going to fsck you
from behind until you love them.

And give up PSD2 because you ain't having pure fibre internet.

All the efforts of PSD2 by bwankers and Fintech IoT businesses
are toast because there is no fibre in UK.

In Paris, all 2 million citizens have gigabit fibre internet.

So with Brexshit, you may as well move to France then.

All those things said by the Chancellor Hammond in his budget
speech yesterday about running towards change is for the
birds, the bees and pooliticians. Not for BT (Britsh Telecum)
Offcum, VM, Openroach etc selling fake fibre.






Offconn's Bhtee Telecum fsckies have fsckied again
--------------------------------------------------


https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2017/11/competition-tribunal-upholds-dark-fibre-uk-market-definitions-ruling.html


Brexshit is around the corner when we all need 10gbit internet
to every home to compete in the world and make money
butt, bhtee fsckies and bhtee fsckied insiders in offconn
have done it again.

"Ofcom’s flawed approach was unduly fixated on a ‘make do and mend’
strategy of squeezing economic value out of BT’s existing legacy network, "


WHAT THE *FSCK* DO OFFCONN THINK THEY ARE DOING?????????????

The *fscking* lot of them need to be sacked immediately!!!

They are *NOT* employees of Bhtee to be *fscking* about with
UK telecom market and helping Bhtee.

They are *NOT* employees of Bhtee to be *fscking* in courts
on behalf of Bhtee.

Political action required.

All the companies in the City and their global competitiveness
have been sold down the river because of
Bhtee and Offconn helping each other illegally.


Fake fibre sold by VM BT Offconn Openroach no good for gaming and social
media
------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Gigaclear, Cityfibre and Hyperoptic have all complained to Advertising
Standards Authority (ASA), but they still no action since 2008.

https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2017/06/full-fibre-isps-call-asa-stop-misleading-uk-fibre-broadband-adverts.html

BT (British Telecum) offers similar upload speed to VM on 200mbit
service, but neither come close to similar priced products
from Gigaclear, Cityfibre and Hyperoptic with up to 1 gbit upload
speed enough for gaming, fast social media uploads, and for
whole family to use at the same time without compromising each
other's Internet experience.

The City is being overcharged and conned as well.
Their entire infrastructure is being overcharged and crippled
by BT (Brititsh Telecum) and encumbants.
City trading is 1000% crippled by slow internet
because British Telecum and Openroach don't know how
to install fibre with FPGA routers.

B4N has cabled up 20,000+ rural connection
and is offering down to £30 per month for 1gbit in rural
communities which shirt and tie fscktarts like VM and BT
(British Telecum) don't know how to cable up.

With the help of Offconn, these encumbants are charging
government £4000 per install when the actual costs
are below £250 per install for fibre.

There needs to be separate investigation with reps
from Gigaclear, Citifibre, Hyperoptic, B4RN etc
in the panel holding an parliamentary inquiry into
why the encumbants VM BT (British Telecum), Openroach
and Offconn have all been in it together to con
the UK government out of billions for services
they did not deliver.



I managed to install 1gbit pure fibre in the home for $41.15
------------------------------------------------------------

$12.11 30m fiber optic cable - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-Shipping-SM-SX-3mm-30M-9-125um-30-Meters-Fiber-Optic-Jumper-Cable-SC-UPC/32619865490.html
$29.04 2 x ethernet to fiber - media converter -
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/HTB-GS-03-A-B-Gigabit-Fiber-Optical-Media-Converter-1000Mbps-Single-Mode-Single-Fiber-SC/32450387383.html

30m of pure fibre - only one required as the fibre media converter
is bidirectional and operates at 1Gbits down the single cable.

The fibre is SC-SC connector.

The media converter has SC connector - connect only to
the TX (and ignore RX marked socket) on both transceivers with single
SC-SC connector.

Connect PC to one transceiver ethernet socket, and other transceiver to
the ethernet switch and hey presto, you got 30M fibre linked
optically! :)

It took me all of 3 minutes to get it operational! :)

If you tried to do this about a year or more ago,
you would be out of pocket by a couple of hundred quid.
Today you can do it for £30 - which is just unbelievable.

Cables 100m, 300m and 500m available to link
PCs in garden sheds or extensions back to the switch or
to a router.

If you are linking farm houses together, neighbours
together in a village or linking offices in
a compound together, the procedure is effortlessly
the same. If you can, make your own cables with a bit of practice:

cleaver -$62- https://www.aliexpress.com/item/9-In-1-Fiber-Optic-FTTH-Tool-Kit-with-FC-6S-Fiber-Cleaver-and-Optical-Power/32647289225.html
sleeves - 5 cents - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1000Pcs-OD2-4-45mm-Fiber-Optic-Fusion-Splice-Protection-Sleeves-Fiber-Cable-Protector-Heat-Shrink-Tube/32732857639.html
gigabit transceiver: 20km/1000BASE-LX - $17
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/SFP-Fiber-Optic-Transceiver-1000BASE-LX-SFP-MINI-GBIC-modules-Compatible-for-CISCO-glc-lh-sm/710717277.html
64 way splitter $85 - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/SC-1X64-PLC-Singlemode-Fiber-Optical-splitter-FTTH-PLC-Steel-tube-type-FBT-PLC-optical-fiber/32476975506.html
fibre - --$375/km https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Fiber-Cable-Multimode-2core-Indoor-fiber-optic-cable-Duplex-Zipcord-PCV-jacket-3-0mm-Orange/793795646.html
Fiber junction box - $7 https://www.aliexpress.com/item/KELUSHI-wholesale-FTTH-FTTH-fiber-panel-fiber-optic-terminal-junction-box-86-information-panels-86-Desktop/32598550478.html

If you are linking together ethernet equipment on different
phases (such as large buildings, or multi-storey offices)
then fibre is the way to go to prevent electrical signals
between the different phases damaging equipment (because
the net voltage difference between the phases can be
415V instead of 240V, and all of that meets in your switch
or router or a PC which is terrible news if there is
a problem).

The world is changing - even though I got fibre in the
home, and live in London, there is nowhere to plug
it into on the street, while the rest of the country,
at least 3% of it has fibre, along with many cities,
for under £50 a month, but not London.

Its an absolute terrible crime what offconn has
done to London. They should hang their heads
in shame and go dunk themselves in river Thames.
Hopefully the replacements are pro-fiber and pure
fibre company directors with a vested interest
in ensuring their under £50 a month fibre companies
are cleared to expand into London at
maximum possible pace.



Paris gets FTTH to all its 2 million inhabitants - Nothing for London
---------------------------------------------------------------------

Sacra bleau!

Paris now has over 2 million FTTH 1 gigabit symmetric DSL (equal upload
and download speed) but London has NOTHING.

A big thank you goes out to *FSCKTARDS* at offconn for being
the vehicle for this.

We need names in front of TV instead fcktards going into hiding and
get out there explaining why Londoners (all 7 million of them, more than
10%
of
UK population concentrated into one place) cannot have their
FTTH 1 gigabit symmetric DSL connection with equal upload and
download speeds starting at £30 per month to £50 per month
while 3% of the country already has it from the likes of
B4RN, Hyperoptic, Gigaclear, FibreCity etc., and other countries
and big cities like Paris that are competitors have fully cabled up FTTH.
In Sweden you got 30 providers per city while there are zero
providers in London.

So why can't these fsktards at offconn resign and let some
other authority be set up to that are pro-fibre and let Londoners
have fibre to the home?

It pushes up the value of London by at leas 2 billion pounds.
And each and every city can add the same value now that
we are brexshitting and have to have this technology to be
competitive.

All it requires is some trolls to be spanked and sacked in
Offconn, and replaced with pro-fibre interest commercial
managers and bob is your uncle - value of UK goes up by
at least 50 billion when 25 cities and towns get cabled up
with fibre.


Angiewireless rolling out 10gbit fibre
--------------------------------------

https://www.angiewireless.co.uk/your-city/

Bhtee VM Openroach all shiitting in their pants
and master baiting even faster with their
krone tool master bation nation tools.

These Bhtee VM Openroach and their racketeering
protection organization offconn don't use 1% of
a gigabit internet connection delivering their pone collection
traffic and teeveee looped box set collection traffic.

Most of this looped teevee is not even watched
because more than 50% of the people on the internet
prefer to watch youtube and the like :)

Bhtee has no understanding of this reality as they go all out
thieving pensioners to fund Bhtee teevee,
and VM even less charging more every day for content
that is unwatchable with nearly 30 minutes of ads per
30 minutes of looped videos. Its easier to watch youtube :)

And gigabit fibre upload speeds are same as download speeds
because its a hundred times cheaper to do it that way,
which means streaming your work for millions to watch
or uploading content in a fraction of the time compared
to Bhtee VM networks that takes several hours to upload a video.

So what are they to do with 10gbit fibre companies
that have already achieved massive roll out
across the globe?

Are they going to sell all their assets
and be the 0.1% customers of these 10gbit companies now?

They have no choice but to sell their phone copper network
and teevee cable network for scrap and become the 0.1% customers
of 10gbit fibre companies.

Fibre costs 100th the price to lay down because their
ducts can be buried 200mm to 1m below the surface.
These ducts don't need strength as there is no electricity,
gas, water or sewage that can spill out if they got dug up
which requires strong ducts to be erected.

A small team can lay 2km of fibre network every day.
The cost of cabling up the entire UK is £6.5 billion,
and revenues first year is £15 billion minimum,
enough to pay it all back.

The retail costs of equipment now ridiculously low (wholesale cheaper):

cleaver -$62- https://www.aliexpress.com/item/9-In-1-Fiber-Optic-FTTH-Tool-Kit-with-FC-6S-Fiber-Cleaver-and-Optical-Power/32647289225.html

sleeves - 5 cents - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1000Pcs-OD2-4-45mm-Fiber-Optic-Fusion-Splice-Protection-Sleeves-Fiber-Cable-Protector-Heat-Shrink-Tube/32732857639.html

gigabit transceiver: 20km/1000BASE-LX - $17
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/SFP-Fiber-Optic-Transceiver-1000BASE-LX-SFP-MINI-GBIC-modules-Compatible-for-CISCO-glc-lh-sm/710717277.html

64 way splitter $85 - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/SC-1X64-PLC-Singlemode-Fiber-Optical-splitter-FTTH-PLC-Steel-tube-type-FBT-PLC-optical-fiber/32476975506.html

fibre - --$375/km https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Fiber-Cable-Multimode-2core-Indoor-fiber-optic-cable-Duplex-Zipcord-PCV-jacket-3-0mm-Orange/793795646.html

Fiber junction box - $7 https://www.aliexpress.com/item/KELUSHI-wholesale-FTTH-FTTH-fiber-panel-fiber-optic-terminal-junction-box-86-information-panels-86-Desktop/32598550478.html

If you send your buyers to China and source all the kit directly,
you can get it much cheaper by the container load.

Your container may cost £2000, but you can bring across £200,000 pounds
worth of stuff
and be making £1 million by the end of a few months.
The only things that hold everyone back is the local councils that
are hell bent pricks on wheels catering to offconn, bhtee and VM interest
and requiring 50 miles of paperwork for 5 miles of fibre.

If you elect to get rid of them and replace it with
fibre friendly councillors in elections 2 months, then
who knows, you could have gigabit symmetric fibre before the
end of the year :)

70% of UK businesses and farms are worried about not getting
fibre into their premises. Bhttee offconn VM Openroach have
no plans to deliver £50 1 gigabit symmetric fibre to the home by 2020
despite 3% of UK households having it wired by non encumbants
like Hyperoptic, Gigaclear, B4RN, Cityfibre, Angiewireless and so on.

So smart alecs with businesses to run and employees to pay
need to push out the unfriendly types from government
and councils and get their fibre friendly councillors into office asap.


Bhtee VM accidentally leak their FTTP equipment prices
------------------------------------------------------

Not.

So I'm setting up BhteeVM_Leeks_WebShite.com web with retail price
list for these items (wholesale cheaper):

64 way splitter $85 - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/SC-1X64-PLC-Singlemode-Fiber-Optical-splitter-FTTH-PLC-Steel-tube-type-FBT-PLC-optical-fiber/32476975506.html

fibre - --$375/km https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Fiber-Cable-Multimode-2core-Indoor-fiber-optic-cable-Duplex-Zipcord-PCV-jacket-3-0mm-Orange/793795646.html

cleaver -$62- https://www.aliexpress.com/item/9-In-1-Fiber-Optic-FTTH-Tool-Kit-with-FC-6S-Fiber-Cleaver-and-Optical-Power/32647289225.html

sleeves - 5 cents - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1000Pcs-OD2-4-45mm-Fiber-Optic-Fusion-Splice-Protection-Sleeves-Fiber-Cable-Protector-Heat-Shrink-Tube/32732857639.html

gigabit transceiver: 20km/1000BASE-LX - $17
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/SFP-Fiber-Optic-Transceiver-1000BASE-LX-SFP-MINI-GBIC-modules-Compatible-for-CISCO-glc-lh-sm/710717277.html

The best way to build routers is to hire FPGA engineers and build the
routers yourself from FPGA and scale up
rapidly
by building copies of own boards.

Otherwise have to purchase say a Cisco router upward £30,000.
Instead pay FPGA engineer £60,000 for 6 months to create as many FPGA boards
as you need for routers.

Examples of what can be done:
https://www.xes-inc.com/products/fpgas/xpedite2402/
https://www.broadcom.com/optical_fpga

IoD calls for 10Gbit fibre
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35681475

Anyone can get into fibre as the trenches are shallow (less than 1m deep)
and carry no electricity - farmer's wifey has done it! :)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-37974267

Farmer's wifey runs pure fibre.
And delivers 1 gigabit fibre symmetric DSL with equal upload and download
speeds
at prices around 30 pounds per month. Bhtee and VM are choking on it and
master baiting
with their krone tools as fast as they can.

So when Bhtee charge 6000 pounds per year for their 1gbit service when we
know their
equipment costs are next to nothing now.
They need to pay all the customers this money back because it is illegal
to overcharge and kidnap all that money to fund subsidies for bhtee teevee
which they have been doing illegally for a long time.


Bhtee and VM can't even use 1% of the capacity with their teeevee and phone
services.
They could instead ask B4RN to install gigabit fibre for them and become
their 1% customer and still everyone will make money.

So when Bhtee charge 6000 pounds per year for their 1gbit service, they
need to be told it must reflect costs as described above,
and any overcharging should be treated like PPI mis-selling
and needs to be paid back to customer from investor profit.

The regulators are in cahoots with Bhtee VM and should be got rid of
and replaced by pure fibre companies and reps.

It could be at least 10 years before bhteee and vm pay back
their over charged customers.

With real prices out in the open for FTTP kit, anyone can
go buy the kit and start laying fibre and make their own
companies. The only way to encourage startups is to deregulate.

With such low FTTP equipment costs,
its not difficult to see why companies like
Talk Talk is investing 5 million pounds
in Yorkshire to wire up 20,000 homes.
Revenue is easily 1 million pounds a month.
Everything paid for in under a year potentially.


Bhtee VM fails 2020 open market review
--------------------------------------

Bhtee and VM fail 2020 open market review to deliver
1Gbit symmetric DSL fibre to premises FTTP for £50 in a test
of free market.

By year 2020 no one in Bhtee or VM will deliver FTTP service
in UK at £50 per month.

This is despite Hyperoptic, Gigaclear, B4RN and many others
delivering 2% of UK infrastructure on 1Gbit symmetric DSL FTTP today.

Councils in England Wales Scotland and Northern Ireland warned
not to deal with Bhtee and VM roping them into expensive out
dated technology being peddled by the likes of VM and Bhtee
that are thin on facts and loose on professional delivery.
Local council and government funding should be given priority
to gigabit pure fibre optic companies delivering minimum 1gbit FTTP
symmetric DSL services capped at 50 pounds retail, noting the average
service provider is able to deliver it at under £30 per month.

All tax payer funding to the likes of Bhttee and VM should be stopped
immediately in favour of pure fibre companies.
The market is expected to be dominated by fibre
companies installing fibre in 1 meter shallow dug plastic pipes
as they don't carry electric cables which would otherwise require
deeper tunnels and stronger ducts causing extensive disruption.
Cumpanies like Bhtee and VM that use less than 1% of the internet
with their telephony and teevee data would become the 1% customers
of the new fibre companies.

Local councils and regulators should pressure Bhtee and VM to remove all
their unnecessary copper from their ducts with incentives such as fines
and sell it for scrap and recycling, and switch to using pure fibre
providers to deliver their services to UK customers.
Tony Dragon
2017-12-25 00:12:47 UTC
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So no answer then, strange that.
Nothing should be strange for a snowflake internet troll
out protecting BT (British Telecum) interests.
<snip>
Do tell us why
You need to read the original poost and it will steer you
in the correct direction for asking important questions.
Either post the answer or just admit that you can not.
So you are admitting to not reading the original post
that could steer you in the correct direction
for asking important question.
<snip>

OK so you can't do it, glad that's cleared up.
Tim+
2017-12-26 18:38:33 UTC
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So no answer then, strange that.
Nothing should be strange for a snowflake internet troll
out protecting BT (British Telecum) interests.
<snip>
Do tell us why
You need to read the original poost and it will steer you
in the correct direction for asking important questions.
Either post the answer or just admit that you can not.
So you are admitting to not reading the original post
that could steer you in the correct direction
for asking important question.
<snip>
OK so you can't do it, glad that's cleared up.
FFS, just killfile the twat. I would see any of his pubescent shit if you
didn’t repost it.

Tim
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Please don't feed the trolls
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2017-12-26 19:40:02 UTC
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So no answer then, strange that.
Nothing should be strange for a snowflake internet troll
out protecting BT (British Telecum) interests.
<snip>
Do tell us why
You need to read the original poost and it will steer you
in the correct direction for asking important questions.
Either post the answer or just admit that you can not.
So you are admitting to not reading the original post
that could steer you in the correct direction
for asking important question.
<snip>
OK so you can't do it, glad that's cleared up.
FFS, just killfile the twat. I would see any of his pubescent shit if you
didn’t repost it.
Tim
Which suggests a snow flake troll like you have no idea how to set kill file
properly instead snow flakes around like a troll weeping all the
way to another sock.

Still you must read the original poast and find some
other thread to poost on:



Who values BT (British Telecum) Shiit investments?
--------------------------------------------------

Offcum values BT (British Telecum) Shiit investments.

Offcum are experts at protecting BT shiit investments by
illegally holding shiit's shares and working on behalf
or BT selling copper adsl to government instead of
full fibre internet at 1/20th the price for 1gbit links.

Openroach values BT Shiit for investments.

Openroach are experts at giving customers a shiit service
and blow jobs at double price, double effort and half the
productivity of everyone else.


If Government or a local council or a business
asked BT (British Telecum) or Offcon or Openroach
a price for internet, they would have lied to your
face in full.

If Government or a local council or a business
asked BT (British Telecum) or Offcon or Openroach
a price for broadband, they would have told you the truth.

What is the difference between asking the price
for 10mbit broadband and asking the price for industry
standard full fibre internet node cheapest
option connecting up a country with best bandwidth
to price ratio?

Internet can be provisioned at 1/20th the price of
broadband. Broadband, shiit's investment, services
can only be delivered with copper.
It requires electrical cable, brick lined tunnels,
water ingress protection, lightening protection,
deeper digs, telegraph poles for distribution,
ADSL modems for every line, fibre modems at each cabinet,
complex machinery for provisioning different upload
and download speed.

While internet can be provisioned with fibre
at 1/20th the price because the fibres don't need
brick lined tunnels and doesn't any complex modems
or machinery for complex upload/download speed controls.
500 fibres can be had from about $2 per meter.
Its cheaper than copper. And you can install the entire
cable in one step instead of asking openroach to
install an empty tube and then blow job a fibre through
that *fscking* empty tube - effectively double the work
and half the productivity and shiit for service while
everyone else install once by installing the fibre cable directly.

And why is Hammond giving away £3000 per business
for full fibre internet to Openroach and BT
when that is normally installed for £250 to £500 by
other companies?

Isn't that called fraud if other companies
are already doing it while BT offcum openroach
can't do it?

And why is government not asking telecom
companies and offcum the asking price for industry
standard full fibre internet 1gbit node cheapest
option connecting up a country with best bandwidth
to price ratio and instead ask the price
of 10mbit ADSL which is 20x expensive than 1gbit fibre?
I can understand if the powers in government that
do all the asking are BT (British Telecum) Shiit
shareholders seeking value for their shiit
investment. But that is called fraud.
Definitely not serving UK brexshit plc.

Even 3rd world country like Azerbaijan has
double the mobile internet speed.
(Among numerous other countries.)
That means their telecom masts are all fibred up.
While in the UK that can't happen when Openroach
BT Offcum are holding their hands out for
£6000 pounds install fee and £6000 annual charges.
All the while 800,000 substantial rural areas
are fibred up with 1gbit services for under £50
per month in UK. So why can't the mobile operators get
their £50 per month gigabit fibre?
Because BT's shiite investors with their shiit
for brains 10mbit ADSL junk conning government
and committing daily fraud.

Japan already has 97% pure fibre.
If brexshit plc is going to compete, it needs
more than deregulation. The best option
is to dump BT shiit investor concerns
and hand all the contracts out to full fibre
companies at the going rate of no more than
£250 to £500 per connection and £50 per month.
Shiit's investors will scream and fsck off and die
but you got better internet for it while
shiite investors have got shiit in their face
for delaying UK plc.



BT (British Telecum) Openroach giving double blow jobs with fibre
-----------------------------------------------------------------

<blow> <blow> <blow> ... <job> <job> <job>!!

That is the sound of bhtee offcum openroach krone tool
master baiters installing fibre.

Double the price, half the productivity, half the efficiency,
and twice the manpower with Bhtee Openroach approach.

Openroach are already missed their own deadlines for rolling
out fibre.

The clue is here is that no one uses these out dated
practices except BT offcum openroach.

How low can these super thick management trolls get?

It cost about £1 to £2 per meter for a couple of hundred
core fibre. So why does BT openroach offcum trolls
install an empty fibre tube and then spend double time
blowing one fibre at a time through the empty tube
with a blow job?

May be they miss krone tool master bation and
now resort to giving customers blow jobs on site?

Double the time, double the effort, double the cost
and very few fibres get installed.

No one does this.

Everyone just installs once the 500+ fibre bundle cores
and leave plenty of spare capacity for cabling
up the rest of Brexshitting UK plc at a lower cost than
install tube and then fibre one fibre at a time.

The fsking p ricks at offcum BT (British Telecum) Openroach
should be relieved of their franchise and exclusive
access to markets and ducts with immediate effect.

All the street ducts should be confiscated by an agnostic
body and charged according to per cm cross sectional
area. So if you install a empty tube 1cm cross section
to blow one fibre, you fsck yourself in the rear
when someone else installs a 1cm cable with 500 fibres
for the same price and connect up 500 more customers
than management trolls and their blow jobs ever will.

This kind of telecum malpractice means no one in the City
is ever going to connected with high speed fibre optic internet
because every tall rise building now needs something
as large as Eurotunnel to cable up with hollow tubes
and one fibre at a time being run through them with a blow job.

What a fskcing mess!!



Offcum BT bins all Mobile Ads costing hundreds of millions
----------------------------------------------------------

Offcum BT (British Telecum) Openroach VM et al
bins Mobile Ads costing hundreds of millions of dollars to
make because there aren't any mobile masts to distribute
these ads to mobile phone users while they are travelling
in trains, buses, underground tube, taxis etc.

Transpurt for Londonistan is proud telling Christmas shoppers
and foreign visitors to go and stuff it as customers
see connection lost signals
and buffering rings go round and round and round..

In China no such problem which leaves all China tourists bemused
as to why UK has become such a third rate stone age country.

Transpurt for Londinistan can't afford the £6000 install fee for fibre
and 6000 pound per annum fee for each and every *FSCKING* fibre
while companies like B4RN, Hyperoptic etc are charging under
£50 per month for the same 1 gbit fibre service.

The Mayor of Londinistan is wahahahaking off about Boris
when he should be whahahahanking off about BT, Offcum, Openroach
et al who collectively between them has left Londinistan
as the most disconnected city in the world with no pure fibre network.

Even in near third world countries like China, there is no
disconnection as you travel inside big buildings, go into
the underground, travel the tubes, and take overground trains
and travel hundreds of miles.

Even Paris, Londonistani's closest competitor has full fibre
for all its 2 million residents.

Offcum needs to be broken up because the City's
PSD2 is not happening either because again there
are no mobile phone masts and fibre connections to fibre
routers available despite bwanks spending billions getting
it ready and dozens of start ups are spending all their money to make
it all work on mobile phone apps.

Come Christmas, Boxing Day shopping, and New Year shopping,
all the ads that are meant to be delivered to Brexshitting mobile users
will not be delivered while connections are lost 2 hours of the day
average and buffering rings go round and round for millions
of customers for average 2 hours a day while they sit in
buses, taxis, underground tube and trains trying to place orders.

The problem is unfixable for Christmas in 4 weeks time.

Lost sales and ad revenue is going to be in the billions for this
coming Christmas - far more than cost of sacking
the lot at Offcum and replacing it with full fibre directors from B4RN,
Hyperoptic, Cityfibre etc.




Offcum BT lose 1 billion Black Friday sales for retailers
---------------------------------------------------------

Offcum BT (British Telecum) Openroach VM et al lose 1 billion of
Black Friday sales for retailers.

Retailers are saying *FSCKING* thanks a lot to the telecum retards.

A lot of people sat 2 or more hours today watching
connection lost, and buffering rings going round and round and round
in tubes, trains, and buses wondering why they can't click on
a simple bargain order while in China you can do this on moving trains,
moving underground tube trains, on buses in towns and villages
and anywhere else where there is civilization.

All the Lards Ladies Pooliticians doing the

1. Stand up fastly
2. Troll
3. Sit down fastly

routine in UK could not deregulate and abolish Offcum
to save Black Friday. Being comatozed on

1. Stand up fastly
2. Troll
3. Sit down fastly

routines, they have no incentive to change anything when
country is sinking to lowest ever productivity and instead
parade themselves on camera for attention talking
up Brexshit according to what their hallucinations tell
them is important. So expect all of Christmas and New Year
to be spent watching more connection lost and buffering rings
going round and round and round thanks to the pooliticians.

While Oxford street gets the full anti-terror treatment today,
there are not enough cameras to relay the signals
because it all requires fibre optic signals and at £6000 install
fee + £6000 per annum for line rental it ain't
gonna make security happen. At least not according to offcum.
Not even while B4RN, Hyperoptic, Citifibre etc are installing
1 gibit fibre for under £50 a month and have cabled up 800,000+
homes already including the most remote villages and houses
by B4RN for £30 a month for 1gbit fibre.

PSD2 is not happening either because it requires a lot of
mobile phone masts connected with fibre to fibre optic routers.
Which ain't gonna happen at £6000 per install and £6000 per
annum fake fees. So billions being spent by the bwanks and all
the startup companies into new PSD2 services and apps will
not be getting any new mobile customers using it.

The fake fibre epidemic gripping UK is driven by Offcum regulator
that allows people to be conned by BT VM Openroach Pusnet Ski
into believing they got
the best when in reality they got fake fibre.

A gamer buying £1000 gaming card, and £2000
OLED monitor and £1500 gaming PC to play games ain't gonna
get anything more serious than buffering rings going round and
round and round.. They gonna lose their game to some retard in
Paris or near third world country like Portugal where
it is all fibre running 1 gbit easy.




PSD2 - BT (British Telecum) Offcum Openroach sez FSCKIT you ain't having it
---------------------------------------------------------------------------

This fsckit and you ain't havin it management troll approach to
pure fibre, gigabit fibre and fibre internet by Offcum and its babies
BT (British Telecum) Openroach VM etc now threatens PSD2.

Payment Services Directive 2 liberates payment information
so that companies other than banks can do your transactions from
ALL mobiles and browsers anywhere on the internet.
Numerous small app business will now be able to do the same
things that bwanks can do at a fraction of the cost
through your account that only bwanks
previously allowed themselves to do to grab hefty fees
as no one else were allowed to touch that data.

This of course requires all mobiles to have connections to
a mast with a fibre link to gigabit routers or the
infrastructure won't work.

It requires small businesses that offer these
services to have gigabit fibre optic links to process payments
and host their developer servers and tools.


BT (British Telecum) Offcum Openroach sez FSCKIT you ain't having it.


QUUAAAAACCCKkkkkkkhhh.....!!!


BT (British Telecum) Offcum Openroach et al are going to fsck you
from behind until you love them.

And give up PSD2 because you ain't having pure fibre internet.

All the efforts of PSD2 by bwankers and Fintech IoT businesses
are toast because there is no fibre in UK.

In Paris, all 2 million citizens have gigabit fibre internet.

So with Brexshit, you may as well move to France then.

All those things said by the Chancellor Hammond in his budget
speech yesterday about running towards change is for the
birds, the bees and pooliticians. Not for BT (Britsh Telecum)
Offcum, VM, Openroach etc selling fake fibre.






Offconn's Bhtee Telecum fsckies have fsckied again
--------------------------------------------------


https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2017/11/competition-tribunal-upholds-dark-fibre-uk-market-definitions-ruling.html


Brexshit is around the corner when we all need 10gbit internet
to every home to compete in the world and make money
butt, bhtee fsckies and bhtee fsckied insiders in offconn
have done it again.

"Ofcom’s flawed approach was unduly fixated on a ‘make do and mend’
strategy of squeezing economic value out of BT’s existing legacy network, "


WHAT THE *FSCK* DO OFFCONN THINK THEY ARE DOING?????????????

The *fscking* lot of them need to be sacked immediately!!!

They are *NOT* employees of Bhtee to be *fscking* about with
UK telecom market and helping Bhtee.

They are *NOT* employees of Bhtee to be *fscking* in courts
on behalf of Bhtee.

Political action required.

All the companies in the City and their global competitiveness
have been sold down the river because of
Bhtee and Offconn helping each other illegally.


Fake fibre sold by VM BT Offconn Openroach no good for gaming and social
media
------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Gigaclear, Cityfibre and Hyperoptic have all complained to Advertising
Standards Authority (ASA), but they still no action since 2008.

https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2017/06/full-fibre-isps-call-asa-stop-misleading-uk-fibre-broadband-adverts.html

BT (British Telecum) offers similar upload speed to VM on 200mbit
service, but neither come close to similar priced products
from Gigaclear, Cityfibre and Hyperoptic with up to 1 gbit upload
speed enough for gaming, fast social media uploads, and for
whole family to use at the same time without compromising each
other's Internet experience.

The City is being overcharged and conned as well.
Their entire infrastructure is being overcharged and crippled
by BT (Brititsh Telecum) and encumbants.
City trading is 1000% crippled by slow internet
because British Telecum and Openroach don't know how
to install fibre with FPGA routers.

B4N has cabled up 20,000+ rural connection
and is offering down to £30 per month for 1gbit in rural
communities which shirt and tie fscktarts like VM and BT
(British Telecum) don't know how to cable up.

With the help of Offconn, these encumbants are charging
government £4000 per install when the actual costs
are below £250 per install for fibre.

There needs to be separate investigation with reps
from Gigaclear, Citifibre, Hyperoptic, B4RN etc
in the panel holding an parliamentary inquiry into
why the encumbants VM BT (British Telecum), Openroach
and Offconn have all been in it together to con
the UK government out of billions for services
they did not deliver.



I managed to install 1gbit pure fibre in the home for $41.15
------------------------------------------------------------

$12.11 30m fiber optic cable - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-Shipping-SM-SX-3mm-30M-9-125um-30-Meters-Fiber-Optic-Jumper-Cable-SC-UPC/32619865490.html
$29.04 2 x ethernet to fiber - media converter -
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/HTB-GS-03-A-B-Gigabit-Fiber-Optical-Media-Converter-1000Mbps-Single-Mode-Single-Fiber-SC/32450387383.html

30m of pure fibre - only one required as the fibre media converter
is bidirectional and operates at 1Gbits down the single cable.

The fibre is SC-SC connector.

The media converter has SC connector - connect only to
the TX (and ignore RX marked socket) on both transceivers with single
SC-SC connector.

Connect PC to one transceiver ethernet socket, and other transceiver to
the ethernet switch and hey presto, you got 30M fibre linked
optically! :)

It took me all of 3 minutes to get it operational! :)

If you tried to do this about a year or more ago,
you would be out of pocket by a couple of hundred quid.
Today you can do it for £30 - which is just unbelievable.

Cables 100m, 300m and 500m available to link
PCs in garden sheds or extensions back to the switch or
to a router.

If you are linking farm houses together, neighbours
together in a village or linking offices in
a compound together, the procedure is effortlessly
the same. If you can, make your own cables with a bit of practice:

cleaver -$62- https://www.aliexpress.com/item/9-In-1-Fiber-Optic-FTTH-Tool-Kit-with-FC-6S-Fiber-Cleaver-and-Optical-Power/32647289225.html
sleeves - 5 cents - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1000Pcs-OD2-4-45mm-Fiber-Optic-Fusion-Splice-Protection-Sleeves-Fiber-Cable-Protector-Heat-Shrink-Tube/32732857639.html
gigabit transceiver: 20km/1000BASE-LX - $17
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/SFP-Fiber-Optic-Transceiver-1000BASE-LX-SFP-MINI-GBIC-modules-Compatible-for-CISCO-glc-lh-sm/710717277.html
64 way splitter $85 - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/SC-1X64-PLC-Singlemode-Fiber-Optical-splitter-FTTH-PLC-Steel-tube-type-FBT-PLC-optical-fiber/32476975506.html
fibre - --$375/km https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Fiber-Cable-Multimode-2core-Indoor-fiber-optic-cable-Duplex-Zipcord-PCV-jacket-3-0mm-Orange/793795646.html
Fiber junction box - $7 https://www.aliexpress.com/item/KELUSHI-wholesale-FTTH-FTTH-fiber-panel-fiber-optic-terminal-junction-box-86-information-panels-86-Desktop/32598550478.html

If you are linking together ethernet equipment on different
phases (such as large buildings, or multi-storey offices)
then fibre is the way to go to prevent electrical signals
between the different phases damaging equipment (because
the net voltage difference between the phases can be
415V instead of 240V, and all of that meets in your switch
or router or a PC which is terrible news if there is
a problem).

The world is changing - even though I got fibre in the
home, and live in London, there is nowhere to plug
it into on the street, while the rest of the country,
at least 3% of it has fibre, along with many cities,
for under £50 a month, but not London.

Its an absolute terrible crime what offconn has
done to London. They should hang their heads
in shame and go dunk themselves in river Thames.
Hopefully the replacements are pro-fiber and pure
fibre company directors with a vested interest
in ensuring their under £50 a month fibre companies
are cleared to expand into London at
maximum possible pace.



Paris gets FTTH to all its 2 million inhabitants - Nothing for London
---------------------------------------------------------------------

Sacra bleau!

Paris now has over 2 million FTTH 1 gigabit symmetric DSL (equal upload
and download speed) but London has NOTHING.

A big thank you goes out to *FSCKTARDS* at offconn for being
the vehicle for this.

We need names in front of TV instead fcktards going into hiding and
get out there explaining why Londoners (all 7 million of them, more than 10%
of
UK population concentrated into one place) cannot have their
FTTH 1 gigabit symmetric DSL connection with equal upload and
download speeds starting at £30 per month to £50 per month
while 3% of the country already has it from the likes of
B4RN, Hyperoptic, Gigaclear, FibreCity etc., and other countries
and big cities like Paris that are competitors have fully cabled up FTTH.
In Sweden you got 30 providers per city while there are zero
providers in London.

So why can't these fsktards at offconn resign and let some
other authority be set up to that are pro-fibre and let Londoners
have fibre to the home?

It pushes up the value of London by at leas 2 billion pounds.
And each and every city can add the same value now that
we are brexshitting and have to have this technology to be
competitive.

All it requires is some trolls to be spanked and sacked in
Offconn, and replaced with pro-fibre interest commercial
managers and bob is your uncle - value of UK goes up by
at least 50 billion when 25 cities and towns get cabled up
with fibre.


Angiewireless rolling out 10gbit fibre
--------------------------------------

https://www.angiewireless.co.uk/your-city/

Bhtee VM Openroach all shiitting in their pants
and master baiting even faster with their
krone tool master bation nation tools.

These Bhtee VM Openroach and their racketeering
protection organization offconn don't use 1% of
a gigabit internet connection delivering their pone collection
traffic and teeveee looped box set collection traffic.

Most of this looped teevee is not even watched
because more than 50% of the people on the internet
prefer to watch youtube and the like :)

Bhtee has no understanding of this reality as they go all out
thieving pensioners to fund Bhtee teevee,
and VM even less charging more every day for content
that is unwatchable with nearly 30 minutes of ads per
30 minutes of looped videos. Its easier to watch youtube :)

And gigabit fibre upload speeds are same as download speeds
because its a hundred times cheaper to do it that way,
which means streaming your work for millions to watch
or uploading content in a fraction of the time compared
to Bhtee VM networks that takes several hours to upload a video.

So what are they to do with 10gbit fibre companies
that have already achieved massive roll out
across the globe?

Are they going to sell all their assets
and be the 0.1% customers of these 10gbit companies now?

They have no choice but to sell their phone copper network
and teevee cable network for scrap and become the 0.1% customers
of 10gbit fibre companies.

Fibre costs 100th the price to lay down because their
ducts can be buried 200mm to 1m below the surface.
These ducts don't need strength as there is no electricity,
gas, water or sewage that can spill out if they got dug up
which requires strong ducts to be erected.

A small team can lay 2km of fibre network every day.
The cost of cabling up the entire UK is £6.5 billion,
and revenues first year is £15 billion minimum,
enough to pay it all back.

The retail costs of equipment now ridiculously low (wholesale cheaper):

cleaver -$62- https://www.aliexpress.com/item/9-In-1-Fiber-Optic-FTTH-Tool-Kit-with-FC-6S-Fiber-Cleaver-and-Optical-Power/32647289225.html

sleeves - 5 cents - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1000Pcs-OD2-4-45mm-Fiber-Optic-Fusion-Splice-Protection-Sleeves-Fiber-Cable-Protector-Heat-Shrink-Tube/32732857639.html

gigabit transceiver: 20km/1000BASE-LX - $17
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/SFP-Fiber-Optic-Transceiver-1000BASE-LX-SFP-MINI-GBIC-modules-Compatible-for-CISCO-glc-lh-sm/710717277.html

64 way splitter $85 - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/SC-1X64-PLC-Singlemode-Fiber-Optical-splitter-FTTH-PLC-Steel-tube-type-FBT-PLC-optical-fiber/32476975506.html

fibre - --$375/km https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Fiber-Cable-Multimode-2core-Indoor-fiber-optic-cable-Duplex-Zipcord-PCV-jacket-3-0mm-Orange/793795646.html

Fiber junction box - $7 https://www.aliexpress.com/item/KELUSHI-wholesale-FTTH-FTTH-fiber-panel-fiber-optic-terminal-junction-box-86-information-panels-86-Desktop/32598550478.html

If you send your buyers to China and source all the kit directly,
you can get it much cheaper by the container load.

Your container may cost £2000, but you can bring across £200,000 pounds
worth of stuff
and be making £1 million by the end of a few months.
The only things that hold everyone back is the local councils that
are hell bent pricks on wheels catering to offconn, bhtee and VM interest
and requiring 50 miles of paperwork for 5 miles of fibre.

If you elect to get rid of them and replace it with
fibre friendly councillors in elections 2 months, then
who knows, you could have gigabit symmetric fibre before the
end of the year :)

70% of UK businesses and farms are worried about not getting
fibre into their premises. Bhttee offconn VM Openroach have
no plans to deliver £50 1 gigabit symmetric fibre to the home by 2020
despite 3% of UK households having it wired by non encumbants
like Hyperoptic, Gigaclear, B4RN, Cityfibre, Angiewireless and so on.

So smart alecs with businesses to run and employees to pay
need to push out the unfriendly types from government
and councils and get their fibre friendly councillors into office asap.


Bhtee VM accidentally leak their FTTP equipment prices
------------------------------------------------------

Not.

So I'm setting up BhteeVM_Leeks_WebShite.com web with retail price
list for these items (wholesale cheaper):

64 way splitter $85 - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/SC-1X64-PLC-Singlemode-Fiber-Optical-splitter-FTTH-PLC-Steel-tube-type-FBT-PLC-optical-fiber/32476975506.html

fibre - --$375/km https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Fiber-Cable-Multimode-2core-Indoor-fiber-optic-cable-Duplex-Zipcord-PCV-jacket-3-0mm-Orange/793795646.html

cleaver -$62- https://www.aliexpress.com/item/9-In-1-Fiber-Optic-FTTH-Tool-Kit-with-FC-6S-Fiber-Cleaver-and-Optical-Power/32647289225.html

sleeves - 5 cents - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1000Pcs-OD2-4-45mm-Fiber-Optic-Fusion-Splice-Protection-Sleeves-Fiber-Cable-Protector-Heat-Shrink-Tube/32732857639.html

gigabit transceiver: 20km/1000BASE-LX - $17
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/SFP-Fiber-Optic-Transceiver-1000BASE-LX-SFP-MINI-GBIC-modules-Compatible-for-CISCO-glc-lh-sm/710717277.html

The best way to build routers is to hire FPGA engineers and build the
routers yourself from FPGA and scale up
rapidly
by building copies of own boards.

Otherwise have to purchase say a Cisco router upward £30,000.
Instead pay FPGA engineer £60,000 for 6 months to create as many FPGA boards
as you need for routers.

Examples of what can be done:
https://www.xes-inc.com/products/fpgas/xpedite2402/
https://www.broadcom.com/optical_fpga

IoD calls for 10Gbit fibre
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35681475

Anyone can get into fibre as the trenches are shallow (less than 1m deep)
and carry no electricity - farmer's wifey has done it! :)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-37974267

Farmer's wifey runs pure fibre.
And delivers 1 gigabit fibre symmetric DSL with equal upload and download
speeds
at prices around 30 pounds per month. Bhtee and VM are choking on it and
master baiting
with their krone tools as fast as they can.

So when Bhtee charge 6000 pounds per year for their 1gbit service when we
know their
equipment costs are next to nothing now.
They need to pay all the customers this money back because it is illegal
to overcharge and kidnap all that money to fund subsidies for bhtee teevee
which they have been doing illegally for a long time.


Bhtee and VM can't even use 1% of the capacity with their teeevee and phone
services.
They could instead ask B4RN to install gigabit fibre for them and become
their 1% customer and still everyone will make money.

So when Bhtee charge 6000 pounds per year for their 1gbit service, they
need to be told it must reflect costs as described above,
and any overcharging should be treated like PPI mis-selling
and needs to be paid back to customer from investor profit.

The regulators are in cahoots with Bhtee VM and should be got rid of
and replaced by pure fibre companies and reps.

It could be at least 10 years before bhteee and vm pay back
their over charged customers.

With real prices out in the open for FTTP kit, anyone can
go buy the kit and start laying fibre and make their own
companies. The only way to encourage startups is to deregulate.

With such low FTTP equipment costs,
its not difficult to see why companies like
Talk Talk is investing 5 million pounds
in Yorkshire to wire up 20,000 homes.
Revenue is easily 1 million pounds a month.
Everything paid for in under a year potentially.


Bhtee VM fails 2020 open market review
--------------------------------------

Bhtee and VM fail 2020 open market review to deliver
1Gbit symmetric DSL fibre to premises FTTP for £50 in a test
of free market.

By year 2020 no one in Bhtee or VM will deliver FTTP service
in UK at £50 per month.

This is despite Hyperoptic, Gigaclear, B4RN and many others
delivering 2% of UK infrastructure on 1Gbit symmetric DSL FTTP today.

Councils in England Wales Scotland and Northern Ireland warned
not to deal with Bhtee and VM roping them into expensive out
dated technology being peddled by the likes of VM and Bhtee
that are thin on facts and loose on professional delivery.
Local council and government funding should be given priority
to gigabit pure fibre optic companies delivering minimum 1gbit FTTP
symmetric DSL services capped at 50 pounds retail, noting the average
service provider is able to deliver it at under £30 per month.

All tax payer funding to the likes of Bhttee and VM should be stopped
immediately in favour of pure fibre companies.
The market is expected to be dominated by fibre
companies installing fibre in 1 meter shallow dug plastic pipes
as they don't carry electric cables which would otherwise require
deeper tunnels and stronger ducts causing extensive disruption.
Cumpanies like Bhtee and VM that use less than 1% of the internet
with their telephony and teevee data would become the 1% customers
of the new fibre companies.

Local councils and regulators should pressure Bhtee and VM to remove all
their unnecessary copper from their ducts with incentives such as fines
and sell it for scrap and recycling, and switch to using pure fibre
providers to deliver their services to UK customers.
Tony Dragon
2017-12-26 20:15:09 UTC
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Post by Tim+
Post by Tony Dragon
Post by 7
Post by Tony Dragon
Post by 7
Post by Tony Dragon
Post by 7
Post by Tony Dragon
So no answer then, strange that.
Nothing should be strange for a snowflake internet troll
out protecting BT (British Telecum) interests.
<snip>
Do tell us why
You need to read the original poost and it will steer you
in the correct direction for asking important questions.
Either post the answer or just admit that you can not.
So you are admitting to not reading the original post
that could steer you in the correct direction
for asking important question.
<snip>
OK so you can't do it, glad that's cleared up.
FFS, just killfile the twat. I would see any of his pubescent shit if you
didn’t repost it.
Tim
You have a point, but I won't killfile him, as reading his 'expert'
posts are fun.
Dick
2017-12-27 11:17:07 UTC
Permalink
Post by Tony Dragon
Post by Tim+
Post by Tony Dragon
Post by 7
Post by Tony Dragon
Post by 7
Post by Tony Dragon
Post by 7
Post by Tony Dragon
So no answer then, strange that.
Nothing should be strange for a snowflake internet troll
out protecting BT (British Telecum) interests.
<snip>
Do tell us why
You need to read the original poost and it will steer you
in the correct direction for asking important questions.
Either post the answer or just admit that you can not.
So you are admitting to not reading the original post
that could steer you in the correct direction
for asking important question.
<snip>
OK so you can't do it, glad that's cleared up.
FFS, just killfile the twat. I would see any of his pubescent shit if you
didn’t repost it.
Tim
You have a point, but I won't killfile him, as reading his 'expert'
posts are fun.
Just fucking read then, so the rest of us that have killfiled him don't
have to keep seeing all the crap because you keep replying.

Paul Cummins
2017-12-23 11:22:00 UTC
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Post by 7
Either a price is for UK wide charge, or it is fraudulent demand
which is adjusted down locally whenever there is pressure to
change.
Really - you'd best start complaining about fuel proces then, they are
local, dependant on the distribution network and the supplier.
--
Paul Cummins - Always a NetHead
Wasting Bandwidth since 1981
====
Visit North Kent's 2nd biggest supplier of Sour Grapes
http://www.grapesdirect.co.uk
Tony Dragon
2017-12-23 13:37:24 UTC
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Post by Paul Cummins
Post by 7
Either a price is for UK wide charge, or it is fraudulent demand
which is adjusted down locally whenever there is pressure to
change.
Really - you'd best start complaining about fuel proces then, they are
local, dependant on the distribution network and the supplier.
Lets no even mention the difference in prices in the local village shop
and the in town supermarket.
MB
2017-12-23 15:03:47 UTC
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Post by Tony Dragon
Post by Paul Cummins
Post by 7
Either a price is for UK wide charge, or it is fraudulent demand
which is adjusted down locally whenever there is pressure to
change.
Really - you'd best start complaining about fuel proces then, they are
local, dependant on the distribution network and the supplier.
Lets no even mention the difference in prices in the local village shop
and the in town supermarket.
Some politicians like to make a fuss about cases like that but it is
difficult unless they are prepared to spend a lot on subsidies.

At the moment there is a lot of noise about extra charges carriers make
for delivering to remoter areas. Not sure what they expect, if they try
to ban the charges then it will be like letters where many companies
only deliver in city centres.
7
2017-12-23 18:21:12 UTC
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Post by Paul Cummins
Post by 7
Either a price is for UK wide charge, or it is fraudulent demand
which is adjusted down locally whenever there is pressure to
change.
Really - you'd best start complaining about fuel proces then, they are
local, dependant on the distribution network and the supplier.
It won't troll. Fuel cost won't go down just
because another one opened a mile away.

Cost of broadband doesn't go down
just because a new player opened an office 1 mile away.
But if British Telecum are intentionally altering
its prices to prevent competitor from operating
in the area by subsidizing it with higher
prices elsewhere, then its a monopoly that needs
to be broken up. This practice has been noted
but offcum hasn't yet fined BT (British Telecum)
because its staff are share holders in BT shiite
and illegally nursing their shiite shareholder value.
Paul Cummins
2017-12-24 09:58:00 UTC
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Post by 7
Fuel cost won't go down just
because another one opened a mile away.
I think you missed the point.

Fuel (Gas/Electricity) is distributed on a NATIONAL privatized network,
yet ther sre differences in pricing depending on where you live.

The gas and electricity network companies have a monomoly in their
livence area, exactly as BT Openreach does. The network must open itelf
up to any supplier offering services over it. Most of the networks are
owned by one of the "big six" suppliers.

Yet there is no "national price", as you require BT to offer, despite
them just being a network supplier for part of the national Telecoms
infrastructure.

Clue, there is another former monopoly operator, in an area BT never had
access to until after the duopoly was broken in the late 1980's

So maybe you should do your research?
--
Paul Cummins - Always a NetHead
Wasting Bandwidth since 1981
====
Visit North Kent's 2nd biggest supplier of Sour Grapes
http://www.grapesdirect.co.uk
MB
2017-12-24 17:15:30 UTC
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Post by Paul Cummins
Fuel (Gas/Electricity) is distributed on a NATIONAL privatized network,
yet ther sre differences in pricing depending on where you live.
Except gas is not distributed "nationally" which is the point I made but
we don't get MPs etc campaigning for everyone to have equal access.
Tweed
2017-12-24 18:12:57 UTC
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Post by MB
Post by Paul Cummins
Fuel (Gas/Electricity) is distributed on a NATIONAL privatized network,
yet ther sre differences in pricing depending on where you live.
Except gas is not distributed "nationally" which is the point I made but
we don't get MPs etc campaigning for everyone to have equal access.
But there are viable alternatives to gas for domestic use. The need for
decent broadband is more akin to the need for electricity, which is
available almost everywhere. I live in a city, with both cable and FTTC
available to me. However, I don’t begrudge a reasonable subsidy to rural
dwellers (which I believe I’m doing through my TV licence). It is part of
living in a society.
7
2017-12-24 22:06:30 UTC
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Post by Tweed
Post by MB
Post by Paul Cummins
Fuel (Gas/Electricity) is distributed on a NATIONAL privatized network,
yet ther sre differences in pricing depending on where you live.
Except gas is not distributed "nationally" which is the point I made but
we don't get MPs etc campaigning for everyone to have equal access.
But there are viable alternatives to gas for domestic use. The need for
decent broadband is more akin to the need for electricity, which is
available almost everywhere. I live in a city, with both cable and FTTC
available to me. However, I don’t begrudge a reasonable subsidy to rural
dwellers (which I believe I’m doing through my TV licence). It is part of
living in a society.
A big main reason for poor rural internet is down to farmers and land
owners holding out their hand for more money for right of passage
for fibre optic cables compared to gas, electric and water pipes.

These village idiots then wonder why they can't get mobile
signals (which require a fibre optic link from the mast
to nearest city) and good broadband.

The law is now changed as of December to prevent farmers
and landowners from doing this with a dispute resolution
system that is fair to all the people left without good
mobile signals and fibre internet.

Where the land owners and farmers have come together and
cabled up with fibre of their own accord and escaping
this kind of idiocy, they have 1 gbit internet with equal
upload and download speeds at £30 per month
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-37974267
At least 20,000 farmers and village dwellers have this
without the need for subsidies.
Fibre installs pay for themselves within the first 2 years.

A second part of the problem is down to BT (British Telecum),
Openroach VM Offcum nursing copper. There is no copper
infrastructure but they would still like to deliver
it as copper at 20x the expense by installing adsl modems,
copper cables and poles after the fibre has arrived in a village.

These fscking BT shiit in investor value know that they
can just as well install a $14 fibre optic modem.

And to top it all off, Openroach needs a double install
because they haven't been trained to a fibre installs
properly. They first install an empty tube, then they
cable up a second time blowing a fibre through the
empty tube. Its going to take at least a decade
to re-train their 33,000 engineers to install
fibre properly and confiscate all that blowing machine.

Fibre costs about $2 per meter for several hundred core
so you may as well install the proper fibre first and one time
because $2 per meter cable is the least of your worries
for that day.
Paul Cummins
2017-12-26 22:16:00 UTC
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Post by 7
These fscking BT shiit in investor value know that they
can just as well install a $14 fibre optic modem.
Show me here I can buy this please?
Post by 7
Fibre costs about $2 per meter for several hundred core
so you may as well install the proper fibre first and one time
because $2 per meter cable is the least of your worries
for that day.
Show me where I can buy this "fibre cable" please, with over 100 cores.
--
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Wasting Bandwidth since 1981
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http://www.grapesdirect.co.uk
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