Why can't we get rid of 1p, 2p, 5p coins?

Why can't we get rid of 1p, 2p, 5p coins? They're virtually worthless.

Flop

2019-05-12 17:19:20 UTC

Why can't we get rid of 1p, 2p, 5p coins? They're virtually worthless.

Go into a supermarket with self-service checkouts.

If it takes coins use as many as you like.

If you have overpaid it will return the excess as largest coin refund.

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Flop

Truly the Good Lord gave us computers that we might learn patience

Commander Kinsey

2019-05-12 18:45:43 UTC

Why can't we get rid of 1p, 2p, 5p coins? They're virtually worthles=

Post by Flop
Go into a supermarket with self-service checkouts.

In Morrisons it would probably say "surprising coin in the chute!"

Post by Flop
If it takes coins use as many as you like.

Yeah and have every other one pop back out when it can't recognise it. =
I never attempt any kind of cash with those useless things, just a debit=
card.

Post by Flop
If you have overpaid it will return the excess as largest coin refund.=

I know I can get rid of them that way, or even easier just deposit them =
in my bank next time I'm there. But the point is we just don't need the=
m. We could then do away with this =A34.99 shit and just have things fo=
r =A35.

Commander Kinsey

2022-01-10 21:00:52 UTC

Post by Commander Kinsey
Why can't we get rid of 1p, 2p, 5p coins? They're virtually worthless.

Go into a supermarket with self-service checkouts.
If it takes coins use as many as you like.
If you have overpaid it will return the excess as largest coin refund.

I mean there's no point in having them at all. They got rid of 0.5p coins decades ago.

Chris in Makati

2019-05-13 00:11:07 UTC

On Sun, 12 May 2019 16:24:04 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Commander Kinsey
Why can't we get rid of 1p, 2p, 5p coins? They're virtually worthless.

We can get rid of them, but the Treasury has decided not to.

If we did then prices would have to be rounded off to the nearest 5p,
and you can bet your life they'd be rounded UP to the nearest 5p.

Commander Kinsey

2019-05-13 14:59:43 UTC

Post by Chris in Makati
On Sun, 12 May 2019 16:24:04 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Commander Kinsey
Why can't we get rid of 1p, 2p, 5p coins? They're virtually worthless.

We can get rid of them, but the Treasury has decided not to.
If we did then prices would have to be rounded off to the nearest 5p,
and you can bet your life they'd be rounded UP to the nearest 5p.

Rubbish. Prices are governed by competition between businesses. If you currently buy something in Asda for 47p, they could make it 50p, but Tesco might make it 45p and everyone would go there instead.

Chris in Makati

2019-05-15 05:09:22 UTC

On Mon, 13 May 2019 15:59:43 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Chris in Makati
On Sun, 12 May 2019 16:24:04 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Commander Kinsey
Why can't we get rid of 1p, 2p, 5p coins? They're virtually worthless.

We can get rid of them, but the Treasury has decided not to.
If we did then prices would have to be rounded off to the nearest 5p,
and you can bet your life they'd be rounded UP to the nearest 5p.

So even if (and it's a very big if) Tesco did reduce the price from
47p to 45p and Asda increased it to 50p then the average price of that
product has increased by 0.5p.

You must have forgotten what happened in 1971 with decimalisation.
Prices had to be rounded off, and in almost every case they were
rounded upwards.

Rather than reducing the price to 45p, past experience has shown that
both stores would increase the price to 50p.

Commander Kinsey

2019-05-15 11:09:03 UTC

Post by Chris in Makati
On Mon, 13 May 2019 15:59:43 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Chris in Makati
On Sun, 12 May 2019 16:24:04 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Why can't we get rid of 1p, 2p, 5p coins? They're virtually worthl=

ess.

Post by Chris in Makati
We can get rid of them, but the Treasury has decided not to.
If we did then prices would have to be rounded off to the nearest 5p=

Post by Chris in Makati
and you can bet your life they'd be rounded UP to the nearest 5p.

Rubbish. Prices are governed by competition between businesses. If =

you currently buy something in Asda for 47p, they could make it 50p, but=
Tesco might make it 45p and everyone would go there instead.

Post by Chris in Makati
So even if (and it's a very big if) Tesco did reduce the price from
47p to 45p and Asda increased it to 50p then the average price of that=
product has increased by 0.5p.
You must have forgotten what happened in 1971 with decimalisation.
Prices had to be rounded off, and in almost every case they were
rounded upwards.
Rather than reducing the price to 45p, past experience has shown that
both stores would increase the price to 50p.

A store has to make a certain profit to stay in business. Prices will b=
e adjusted for that, and competition with others.

Anyway it's worth it to get rid of the monumentally stupid =A35.99 shit.=
It does not look less than =A36, we're not thick!

Stephen Wolstenholme

2019-05-15 14:25:08 UTC

On Wed, 15 May 2019 12:09:03 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Anyway it's worth it to get rid of the monumentally stupid £5.99 shit. It does not look less than £6, we're not thick!

In just a quick glance at the price £5.99 looks to be a £ cheaper than
£6 and £6.00

Years ago when I did the same shopping every week a wine that I like
was over 20 quid a bottle and that price was stuck in my mind. Then it
changed to £19.95 a bottle at the same shop so it seemed like a
bargain. Then I noticed that it was £34.95 for two bottles. I'm not
safe when I shop! These days I do my shopping online and get
everything delivered.

Steve

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Commander Kinsey

2019-05-15 14:54:35 UTC

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Wed, 15 May 2019 12:09:03 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Anyway it's worth it to get rid of the monumentally stupid =A35.99 sh=

it. It does not look less than =A36, we're not thick!

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
In just a quick glance at the price =A35.99 looks to be a =A3 cheaper =

than

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
=A36 and =A36.00

Er, only if you're an idiot. Although in the same way, all those 9s cou=
ld make other idiots think it was more.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
Years ago when I did the same shopping every week a wine that I like
was over 20 quid a bottle and that price was stuck in my mind. Then it=
changed to =A319.95 a bottle at the same shop so it seemed like a
bargain.

Er.... ok. So what did you treat yourself to with those 5ps?

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
Then I noticed that it was =A334.95 for two bottles.

You mean they didn't take off another 5p?

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
I'm not
safe when I shop! These days I do my shopping online and get
everything delivered.

I stopped doing that, since I now use 4 supermarkets. Some are cheaper =
for some things, some are cheaper for others, plus some have better qual=
ity of certain items. It's not too much hassle, as I only shop every 3 =
weeks and make extensive use of the freezer.

Stephen Wolstenholme

2019-05-15 15:25:23 UTC

On Wed, 15 May 2019 15:54:35 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Wed, 15 May 2019 12:09:03 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Anyway it's worth it to get rid of the monumentally stupid £5.99 shit. It does not look less than £6, we're not thick!

In just a quick glance at the price £5.99 looks to be a £ cheaper than
£6 and £6.00

Er, only if you're an idiot. Although in the same way, all those 9s could make other idiots think it was more.

It was randomly tested on lots of people shopping in the Manchester
Arndale about 30 years ago. Guess who worked in the Arndale?

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
Years ago when I did the same shopping every week a wine that I like
was over 20 quid a bottle and that price was stuck in my mind. Then it
changed to £19.95 a bottle at the same shop so it seemed like a
bargain.

Er.... ok. So what did you treat yourself to with those 5ps?

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
Then I noticed that it was £34.95 for two bottles.

You mean they didn't take off another 5p?

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
I'm not
safe when I shop! These days I do my shopping online and get
everything delivered.

I stopped doing that, since I now use 4 supermarkets. Some are cheaper for some things, some are cheaper for others, plus some have better quality of certain items. It's not too much hassle, as I only shop every 3 weeks and make extensive use of the freezer.

I'm in a wheelchair these days and so I avoid all shops, even the
wheelchair friendly ones!

Steve

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Commander Kinsey

2019-05-15 15:59:11 UTC

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Wed, 15 May 2019 15:54:35 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Wed, 15 May 2019 12:09:03 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Anyway it's worth it to get rid of the monumentally stupid =A35.99 =

shit. It does not look less than =A36, we're not thick!

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
In just a quick glance at the price =A35.99 looks to be a =A3 cheape=

r than

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
=A36 and =A36.00

Er, only if you're an idiot. Although in the same way, all those 9s =

could make other idiots think it was more.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
It was randomly tested on lots of people shopping in the Manchester
Arndale about 30 years ago. Guess who worked in the Arndale?

Manchester is renowned for stupidity.

When I see =A34.99, I automatically think "That means =A35" - all it doe=
s is annoy me, especially if there's 10 items all with 99 on the end.

It did make me laugh once when I bought something for =A319.99 and the s=
hop assistant (if that's what you call them - teller? cashier?) insisted=
on giving me the penny change which she didn't have. I told her not to=
be ridiculous but she wouldn't listen and wandered off to find a manage=
r. I left the store a penny short and didn't bother waiting.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
Years ago when I did the same shopping every week a wine that I like=
was over 20 quid a bottle and that price was stuck in my mind. Then =

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
changed to =A319.95 a bottle at the same shop so it seemed like a
bargain.

Er.... ok. So what did you treat yourself to with those 5ps?

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
Then I noticed that it was =A334.95 for two bottles.

You mean they didn't take off another 5p?

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
I'm not
safe when I shop! These days I do my shopping online and get
everything delivered.

I stopped doing that, since I now use 4 supermarkets. Some are cheap=

er for some things, some are cheaper for others, plus some have better q=
uality of certain items. It's not too much hassle, as I only shop every=
3 weeks and make extensive use of the freezer.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
I'm in a wheelchair these days and so I avoid all shops, even the
wheelchair friendly ones!

But you can rent (they might even be free) those electric supermarket th=
ings that go at 1mph and knock everything over. You'd have great fun ba=
rging into people's ankles.

Stephen Wolstenholme

2019-05-16 12:01:33 UTC

On Wed, 15 May 2019 16:59:11 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Wed, 15 May 2019 15:54:35 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Wed, 15 May 2019 12:09:03 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Anyway it's worth it to get rid of the monumentally stupid £5.99 shit. It does not look less than £6, we're not thick!

In just a quick glance at the price £5.99 looks to be a £ cheaper than
£6 and £6.00

Er, only if you're an idiot. Although in the same way, all those 9s could make other idiots think it was more.

It was randomly tested on lots of people shopping in the Manchester
Arndale about 30 years ago. Guess who worked in the Arndale?

Manchester is renowned for stupidity.
When I see £4.99, I automatically think "That means £5" - all it does is annoy me, especially if there's 10 items all with 99 on the end.
It did make me laugh once when I bought something for £19.99 and the shop assistant (if that's what you call them - teller? cashier?) insisted on giving me the penny change which she didn't have. I told her not to be ridiculous but she wouldn't listen and wandered off to find a manager. I left the store a penny short and didn't bother waiting.

Er.... ok. So what did you treat yourself to with those 5ps?

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
Then I noticed that it was £34.95 for two bottles.

You mean they didn't take off another 5p?

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
I'm not
safe when I shop! These days I do my shopping online and get
everything delivered.

I'm in a wheelchair these days and so I avoid all shops, even the
wheelchair friendly ones!

But you can rent (they might even be free) those electric supermarket things that go at 1mph and knock everything over. You'd have great fun barging into people's ankles.

My wife and my carer went shopping yesterday. They "borrowed" one the
shopping things at the supermarket and filled it up. Then they went
back to the car, transferred the shopping into the boot and drove back
home. Then they realised they had forgotten to pay for the shopping.
My wife went back to the supermarket and explained what she had done.
It took about 30 minutes to correct the mistake and work out why the
alarm had not gone off. The manager apologised for the inconvenience!

Steve

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Commander Kinsey

2019-05-16 15:10:20 UTC

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Wed, 15 May 2019 16:59:11 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Wed, 15 May 2019 15:54:35 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Wed, 15 May 2019 12:09:03 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Anyway it's worth it to get rid of the monumentally stupid =A35.9=

9 shit. It does not look less than =A36, we're not thick!

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
In just a quick glance at the price =A35.99 looks to be a =A3 chea=

per than

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
=A36 and =A36.00

Er, only if you're an idiot. Although in the same way, all those 9=

s could make other idiots think it was more.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
It was randomly tested on lots of people shopping in the Manchester
Arndale about 30 years ago. Guess who worked in the Arndale?

Manchester is renowned for stupidity.
When I see =A34.99, I automatically think "That means =A35" - all it =

does is annoy me, especially if there's 10 items all with 99 on the end.=

Post by Commander Kinsey
It did make me laugh once when I bought something for =A319.99 and th=

e shop assistant (if that's what you call them - teller? cashier?) insis=
ted on giving me the penny change which she didn't have. I told her not=
to be ridiculous but she wouldn't listen and wandered off to find a man=
ager. I left the store a penny short and didn't bother waiting.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
Years ago when I did the same shopping every week a wine that I li=

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
was over 20 quid a bottle and that price was stuck in my mind. The=

n it

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
changed to =A319.95 a bottle at the same shop so it seemed like a
bargain.

Er.... ok. So what did you treat yourself to with those 5ps?

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
Then I noticed that it was =A334.95 for two bottles.

You mean they didn't take off another 5p?

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
I'm not
safe when I shop! These days I do my shopping online and get
everything delivered.

I stopped doing that, since I now use 4 supermarkets. Some are che=

aper for some things, some are cheaper for others, plus some have better=
quality of certain items. It's not too much hassle, as I only shop eve=
ry 3 weeks and make extensive use of the freezer.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
I'm in a wheelchair these days and so I avoid all shops, even the
wheelchair friendly ones!

But you can rent (they might even be free) those electric supermarket=

things that go at 1mph and knock everything over. You'd have great fun=
barging into people's ankles.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
My wife and my carer went shopping yesterday. They "borrowed" one the
shopping things at the supermarket and filled it up. Then they went
back to the car, transferred the shopping into the boot and drove back=
home. Then they realised they had forgotten to pay for the shopping.
My wife went back to the supermarket and explained what she had done.
It took about 30 minutes to correct the mistake and work out why the
alarm had not gone off. The manager apologised for the inconvenience!

Why is someone more likely to do that than with a regular trolley? Didn=
't they go through the same exit (as in past the tills?)

And why on earth did they go back?!!?

Chris in Makati

2019-05-17 04:51:31 UTC

On Thu, 16 May 2019 16:10:20 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Wed, 15 May 2019 16:59:11 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Wed, 15 May 2019 15:54:35 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Wed, 15 May 2019 12:09:03 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Anyway it's worth it to get rid of the monumentally stupid £5.99 shit. It does not look less than £6, we're not thick!

In just a quick glance at the price £5.99 looks to be a £ cheaper than
£6 and £6.00

Er, only if you're an idiot. Although in the same way, all those 9s could make other idiots think it was more.

It was randomly tested on lots of people shopping in the Manchester
Arndale about 30 years ago. Guess who worked in the Arndale?

Er.... ok. So what did you treat yourself to with those 5ps?

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
Then I noticed that it was £34.95 for two bottles.

You mean they didn't take off another 5p?

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
I'm not
safe when I shop! These days I do my shopping online and get
everything delivered.

I'm in a wheelchair these days and so I avoid all shops, even the
wheelchair friendly ones!

But you can rent (they might even be free) those electric supermarket things that go at 1mph and knock everything over. You'd have great fun barging into people's ankles.

Why is someone more likely to do that than with a regular trolley? Didn't they go through the same exit (as in past the tills?)
And why on earth did they go back?!!?

They went back to pay for the shopping. Did you miss the part where he
said they had forgotten to do so?

Commander Kinsey

2019-05-17 20:09:46 UTC

Post by Chris in Makati
On Thu, 16 May 2019 16:10:20 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Wed, 15 May 2019 16:59:11 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Wed, 15 May 2019 15:54:35 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Wed, 15 May 2019 12:09:03 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Anyway it's worth it to get rid of the monumentally stupid =A35=

.99 shit. It does not look less than =A36, we're not thick!

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
In just a quick glance at the price =A35.99 looks to be a =A3 ch=

eaper than

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
=A36 and =A36.00

Er, only if you're an idiot. Although in the same way, all those=

9s could make other idiots think it was more.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
It was randomly tested on lots of people shopping in the Mancheste=

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
Arndale about 30 years ago. Guess who worked in the Arndale?

Manchester is renowned for stupidity.
When I see =A34.99, I automatically think "That means =A35" - all i=

t does is annoy me, especially if there's 10 items all with 99 on the en=
d.

Post by Commander Kinsey
It did make me laugh once when I bought something for =A319.99 and =

the shop assistant (if that's what you call them - teller? cashier?) ins=
isted on giving me the penny change which she didn't have. I told her n=
ot to be ridiculous but she wouldn't listen and wandered off to find a m=
anager. I left the store a penny short and didn't bother waiting.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
Years ago when I did the same shopping every week a wine that I =

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
was over 20 quid a bottle and that price was stuck in my mind. T=

hen it

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
changed to =A319.95 a bottle at the same shop so it seemed like =

Er.... ok. So what did you treat yourself to with those 5ps?

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
Then I noticed that it was =A334.95 for two bottles.

You mean they didn't take off another 5p?

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
I'm not
safe when I shop! These days I do my shopping online and get
everything delivered.

I stopped doing that, since I now use 4 supermarkets. Some are c=

heaper for some things, some are cheaper for others, plus some have bett=
er quality of certain items. It's not too much hassle, as I only shop e=
very 3 weeks and make extensive use of the freezer.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
I'm in a wheelchair these days and so I avoid all shops, even the
wheelchair friendly ones!

But you can rent (they might even be free) those electric supermark=

et things that go at 1mph and knock everything over. You'd have great f=
un barging into people's ankles.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
My wife and my carer went shopping yesterday. They "borrowed" one th=

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
shopping things at the supermarket and filled it up. Then they went
back to the car, transferred the shopping into the boot and drove ba=

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
home. Then they realised they had forgotten to pay for the shopping.=
My wife went back to the supermarket and explained what she had done=

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
It took about 30 minutes to correct the mistake and work out why the=
alarm had not gone off. The manager apologised for the inconvenience=

Why is someone more likely to do that than with a regular trolley? D=

idn't they go through the same exit (as in past the tills?)

And why on earth did they go back?!!?

They went back to pay for the shopping. Did you miss the part where he=
said they had forgotten to do so?

But they could have got the stuff for free!

Chris in Makati

2019-05-18 02:32:40 UTC

On Fri, 17 May 2019 21:09:46 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Chris in Makati
On Thu, 16 May 2019 16:10:20 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Wed, 15 May 2019 16:59:11 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Wed, 15 May 2019 15:54:35 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Wed, 15 May 2019 12:09:03 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Anyway it's worth it to get rid of the monumentally stupid £5.99 shit. It does not look less than £6, we're not thick!

In just a quick glance at the price £5.99 looks to be a £ cheaper than
£6 and £6.00

Er, only if you're an idiot. Although in the same way, all those 9s could make other idiots think it was more.

It was randomly tested on lots of people shopping in the Manchester
Arndale about 30 years ago. Guess who worked in the Arndale?

Er.... ok. So what did you treat yourself to with those 5ps?

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
Then I noticed that it was £34.95 for two bottles.

You mean they didn't take off another 5p?

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
I'm not
safe when I shop! These days I do my shopping online and get
everything delivered.

I'm in a wheelchair these days and so I avoid all shops, even the
wheelchair friendly ones!

But you can rent (they might even be free) those electric supermarket things that go at 1mph and knock everything over. You'd have great fun barging into people's ankles.

Why is someone more likely to do that than with a regular trolley? Didn't they go through the same exit (as in past the tills?)
And why on earth did they go back?!!?

They went back to pay for the shopping. Did you miss the part where he
said they had forgotten to do so?

But they could have got the stuff for free!

Yes, you can always steal other people's property.

Do you do that kind of thing regularly?

Commander Kinsey

2019-05-18 14:11:37 UTC

Post by Chris in Makati
On Fri, 17 May 2019 21:09:46 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Chris in Makati
On Thu, 16 May 2019 16:10:20 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Wed, 15 May 2019 16:59:11 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Wed, 15 May 2019 15:54:35 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

On Wed, 15 May 2019 15:25:08 +0100, Stephen Wolstenholme <steve=

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Wed, 15 May 2019 12:09:03 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Anyway it's worth it to get rid of the monumentally stupid =A3=

5.99 shit. It does not look less than =A36, we're not thick!

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
In just a quick glance at the price =A35.99 looks to be a =A3 =

cheaper than

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
=A36 and =A36.00

Er, only if you're an idiot. Although in the same way, all tho=

se 9s could make other idiots think it was more.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
It was randomly tested on lots of people shopping in the Manches=

ter

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
Arndale about 30 years ago. Guess who worked in the Arndale?

Manchester is renowned for stupidity.
When I see =A34.99, I automatically think "That means =A35" - all=

it does is annoy me, especially if there's 10 items all with 99 on the =
end.

Post by Commander Kinsey
It did make me laugh once when I bought something for =A319.99 an=

d the shop assistant (if that's what you call them - teller? cashier?) i=
nsisted on giving me the penny change which she didn't have. I told her=
not to be ridiculous but she wouldn't listen and wandered off to find a=
manager. I left the store a penny short and didn't bother waiting.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
Years ago when I did the same shopping every week a wine that =

I like

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
was over 20 quid a bottle and that price was stuck in my mind.=

Then it

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
changed to =A319.95 a bottle at the same shop so it seemed lik=

e a

Er.... ok. So what did you treat yourself to with those 5ps?

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
Then I noticed that it was =A334.95 for two bottles.

You mean they didn't take off another 5p?

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
I'm not
safe when I shop! These days I do my shopping online and get
everything delivered.

I stopped doing that, since I now use 4 supermarkets. Some are=

cheaper for some things, some are cheaper for others, plus some have be=
tter quality of certain items. It's not too much hassle, as I only shop=
every 3 weeks and make extensive use of the freezer.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
I'm in a wheelchair these days and so I avoid all shops, even th=

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
wheelchair friendly ones!

But you can rent (they might even be free) those electric superma=

rket things that go at 1mph and knock everything over. You'd have great=
fun barging into people's ankles.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
My wife and my carer went shopping yesterday. They "borrowed" one =

the

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
shopping things at the supermarket and filled it up. Then they wen=

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
back to the car, transferred the shopping into the boot and drove =

back

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
home. Then they realised they had forgotten to pay for the shoppin=

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
My wife went back to the supermarket and explained what she had do=

ne.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
It took about 30 minutes to correct the mistake and work out why t=

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
alarm had not gone off. The manager apologised for the inconvenien=

ce!

Why is someone more likely to do that than with a regular trolley? =

Didn't they go through the same exit (as in past the tills?)

And why on earth did they go back?!!?

They went back to pay for the shopping. Did you miss the part where =

Post by Chris in Makati
said they had forgotten to do so?

But they could have got the stuff for free!

Yes, you can always steal other people's property.
Do you do that kind of thing regularly?

It wasn't theft it was a mistake.

Chris in Makati

2019-05-19 14:31:56 UTC

On Sat, 18 May 2019 15:11:37 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Chris in Makati
On Fri, 17 May 2019 21:09:46 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Chris in Makati
On Thu, 16 May 2019 16:10:20 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Wed, 15 May 2019 16:59:11 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Wed, 15 May 2019 15:54:35 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Wed, 15 May 2019 12:09:03 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Anyway it's worth it to get rid of the monumentally stupid £5.99 shit. It does not look less than £6, we're not thick!

In just a quick glance at the price £5.99 looks to be a £ cheaper than
£6 and £6.00

Er, only if you're an idiot. Although in the same way, all those 9s could make other idiots think it was more.

It was randomly tested on lots of people shopping in the Manchester
Arndale about 30 years ago. Guess who worked in the Arndale?

Er.... ok. So what did you treat yourself to with those 5ps?

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
Then I noticed that it was £34.95 for two bottles.

You mean they didn't take off another 5p?

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
I'm not
safe when I shop! These days I do my shopping online and get
everything delivered.

I'm in a wheelchair these days and so I avoid all shops, even the
wheelchair friendly ones!

But you can rent (they might even be free) those electric supermarket things that go at 1mph and knock everything over. You'd have great fun barging into people's ankles.

Why is someone more likely to do that than with a regular trolley? Didn't they go through the same exit (as in past the tills?)
And why on earth did they go back?!!?

They went back to pay for the shopping. Did you miss the part where he
said they had forgotten to do so?

But they could have got the stuff for free!

Yes, you can always steal other people's property.
Do you do that kind of thing regularly?

It wasn't theft it was a mistake.

You try telling the judge that you drove home with a trolley load of
stuff from the supermarket without paying, and it was all just a
mistake. Then when you realised what happened you failed to take any
action to pay the money you owed, and that was just a mistake too.

Commander Kinsey

2019-05-19 15:25:19 UTC

Post by Chris in Makati
On Sat, 18 May 2019 15:11:37 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Chris in Makati
On Fri, 17 May 2019 21:09:46 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Chris in Makati
On Thu, 16 May 2019 16:10:20 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Wed, 15 May 2019 16:59:11 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

On Wed, 15 May 2019 16:25:23 +0100, Stephen Wolstenholme <steve=

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Wed, 15 May 2019 15:54:35 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

On Wed, 15 May 2019 15:25:08 +0100, Stephen Wolstenholme <ste=

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Wed, 15 May 2019 12:09:03 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Commander Kinsey
Anyway it's worth it to get rid of the monumentally stupid =

=A35.99 shit. It does not look less than =A36, we're not thick!

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
In just a quick glance at the price =A35.99 looks to be a =A3=

cheaper than

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
=A36 and =A36.00

Er, only if you're an idiot. Although in the same way, all t=

hose 9s could make other idiots think it was more.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
It was randomly tested on lots of people shopping in the Manch=

ester

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
Arndale about 30 years ago. Guess who worked in the Arndale?

Manchester is renowned for stupidity.
When I see =A34.99, I automatically think "That means =A35" - a=

ll it does is annoy me, especially if there's 10 items all with 99 on th=
e end.

It did make me laugh once when I bought something for =A319.99 =

and the shop assistant (if that's what you call them - teller? cashier?)=
insisted on giving me the penny change which she didn't have. I told h=
er not to be ridiculous but she wouldn't listen and wandered off to find=
a manager. I left the store a penny short and didn't bother waiting.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
Years ago when I did the same shopping every week a wine tha=

t I like

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
was over 20 quid a bottle and that price was stuck in my min=

d. Then it

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
changed to =A319.95 a bottle at the same shop so it seemed l=

ike a

Er.... ok. So what did you treat yourself to with those 5ps?=

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
Then I noticed that it was =A334.95 for two bottles.

You mean they didn't take off another 5p?

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
I'm not
safe when I shop! These days I do my shopping online and get=
everything delivered.

I stopped doing that, since I now use 4 supermarkets. Some a=

re cheaper for some things, some are cheaper for others, plus some have =
better quality of certain items. It's not too much hassle, as I only sh=
op every 3 weeks and make extensive use of the freezer.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
I'm in a wheelchair these days and so I avoid all shops, even =

the

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
wheelchair friendly ones!

But you can rent (they might even be free) those electric super=

market things that go at 1mph and knock everything over. You'd have gre=
at fun barging into people's ankles.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
My wife and my carer went shopping yesterday. They "borrowed" on=

e the

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
shopping things at the supermarket and filled it up. Then they w=

ent

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
back to the car, transferred the shopping into the boot and drov=

e back

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
home. Then they realised they had forgotten to pay for the shopp=

ing.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
My wife went back to the supermarket and explained what she had =

done.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
It took about 30 minutes to correct the mistake and work out why=

the

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
alarm had not gone off. The manager apologised for the inconveni=

ence!

Why is someone more likely to do that than with a regular trolley=

? Didn't they go through the same exit (as in past the tills?)

And why on earth did they go back?!!?

They went back to pay for the shopping. Did you miss the part wher=

e he

Post by Chris in Makati
said they had forgotten to do so?

But they could have got the stuff for free!

Yes, you can always steal other people's property.
Do you do that kind of thing regularly?

It wasn't theft it was a mistake.

If you leave without paying, they notice and stop you there and then. C=
learly you would have got away with it.

Chris in Makati

2019-05-20 00:32:49 UTC

On Sun, 19 May 2019 16:25:19 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Chris in Makati
On Sat, 18 May 2019 15:11:37 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Chris in Makati
On Fri, 17 May 2019 21:09:46 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Chris in Makati
On Thu, 16 May 2019 16:10:20 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Wed, 15 May 2019 16:59:11 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Wed, 15 May 2019 15:54:35 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Wed, 15 May 2019 12:09:03 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Anyway it's worth it to get rid of the monumentally stupid £5.99 shit. It does not look less than £6, we're not thick!

In just a quick glance at the price £5.99 looks to be a £ cheaper than
£6 and £6.00

Er, only if you're an idiot. Although in the same way, all those 9s could make other idiots think it was more.

It was randomly tested on lots of people shopping in the Manchester
Arndale about 30 years ago. Guess who worked in the Arndale?

Er.... ok. So what did you treat yourself to with those 5ps?

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
Then I noticed that it was £34.95 for two bottles.

You mean they didn't take off another 5p?

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
I'm not
safe when I shop! These days I do my shopping online and get
everything delivered.

I'm in a wheelchair these days and so I avoid all shops, even the
wheelchair friendly ones!

But you can rent (they might even be free) those electric supermarket things that go at 1mph and knock everything over. You'd have great fun barging into people's ankles.

Why is someone more likely to do that than with a regular trolley? Didn't they go through the same exit (as in past the tills?)
And why on earth did they go back?!!?

They went back to pay for the shopping. Did you miss the part where he
said they had forgotten to do so?

But they could have got the stuff for free!

Yes, you can always steal other people's property.
Do you do that kind of thing regularly?

It wasn't theft it was a mistake.

If you leave without paying, they notice and stop you there and then. Clearly you would have got away with it.

But in this case the shop didn't notice and they didn't get stopped.
They got all the way home before they realised they hadn't paid for
the things they had taken. They were honest enough to go back to the
shop and pay for the goods.

Then you ask why they went back? If you get away with stealing does
that make it ok in your opinion? If not then why did you need to ask
why they went back? I suppose the real answer is not everyone is
dishonest. Some people try to do what they know is the right.

Commander Kinsey

2019-05-20 20:10:31 UTC

Post by Chris in Makati
On Sun, 19 May 2019 16:25:19 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Chris in Makati
On Sat, 18 May 2019 15:11:37 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Chris in Makati
On Fri, 17 May 2019 21:09:46 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Chris in Makati
On Thu, 16 May 2019 16:10:20 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

On Thu, 16 May 2019 13:01:33 +0100, Stephen Wolstenholme <steve=

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Wed, 15 May 2019 16:59:11 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

On Wed, 15 May 2019 16:25:23 +0100, Stephen Wolstenholme <ste=

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Wed, 15 May 2019 15:54:35 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

On Wed, 15 May 2019 15:25:08 +0100, Stephen Wolstenholme <s=

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Wed, 15 May 2019 12:09:03 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Anyway it's worth it to get rid of the monumentally stupi=

d =A35.99 shit. It does not look less than =A36, we're not thick!

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
In just a quick glance at the price =A35.99 looks to be a =

=A3 cheaper than

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
=A36 and =A36.00

Er, only if you're an idiot. Although in the same way, all=

those 9s could make other idiots think it was more.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
It was randomly tested on lots of people shopping in the Man=

chester

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
Arndale about 30 years ago. Guess who worked in the Arndale?=

Manchester is renowned for stupidity.
When I see =A34.99, I automatically think "That means =A35" -=

all it does is annoy me, especially if there's 10 items all with 99 on =
the end.

It did make me laugh once when I bought something for =A319.9=

9 and the shop assistant (if that's what you call them - teller? cashier=
?) insisted on giving me the penny change which she didn't have. I told=
her not to be ridiculous but she wouldn't listen and wandered off to fi=
nd a manager. I left the store a penny short and didn't bother waiting.=

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
Years ago when I did the same shopping every week a wine t=

hat I like

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
was over 20 quid a bottle and that price was stuck in my m=

ind. Then it

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
changed to =A319.95 a bottle at the same shop so it seemed=

like a

Er.... ok. So what did you treat yourself to with those 5p=

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
Then I noticed that it was =A334.95 for two bottles.

You mean they didn't take off another 5p?

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
I'm not
safe when I shop! These days I do my shopping online and g=

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
everything delivered.

I stopped doing that, since I now use 4 supermarkets. Some=

are cheaper for some things, some are cheaper for others, plus some hav=
e better quality of certain items. It's not too much hassle, as I only =
shop every 3 weeks and make extensive use of the freezer.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
I'm in a wheelchair these days and so I avoid all shops, eve=

n the

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
wheelchair friendly ones!

But you can rent (they might even be free) those electric sup=

ermarket things that go at 1mph and knock everything over. You'd have g=
reat fun barging into people's ankles.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
My wife and my carer went shopping yesterday. They "borrowed" =

one the

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
shopping things at the supermarket and filled it up. Then they=

went

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
back to the car, transferred the shopping into the boot and dr=

ove back

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
home. Then they realised they had forgotten to pay for the sho=

pping.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
My wife went back to the supermarket and explained what she ha=

d done.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
It took about 30 minutes to correct the mistake and work out w=

hy the

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
alarm had not gone off. The manager apologised for the inconve=

nience!

Why is someone more likely to do that than with a regular troll=

ey? Didn't they go through the same exit (as in past the tills?)

And why on earth did they go back?!!?

They went back to pay for the shopping. Did you miss the part wh=

ere he

Post by Chris in Makati
said they had forgotten to do so?

But they could have got the stuff for free!

Yes, you can always steal other people's property.
Do you do that kind of thing regularly?

It wasn't theft it was a mistake.

You try telling the judge that you drove home with a trolley load of=
stuff from the supermarket without paying, and it was all just a
mistake. Then when you realised what happened you failed to take any=
action to pay the money you owed, and that was just a mistake too.

If you leave without paying, they notice and stop you there and then.=

Clearly you would have got away with it.

Post by Chris in Makati
But in this case the shop didn't notice and they didn't get stopped.

There you go then, they could have had those goods for free.

Post by Chris in Makati
They got all the way home before they realised they hadn't paid for
the things they had taken. They were honest enough to go back to the
shop and pay for the goods.
Then you ask why they went back? If you get away with stealing does
that make it ok in your opinion? If not then why did you need to ask
why they went back? I suppose the real answer is not everyone is
dishonest. Some people try to do what they know is the right.

The company that owns the shop will be 50000 times richer than them. Th=
ey won't miss it.

Chris in Makati

2019-05-21 00:36:33 UTC

On Mon, 20 May 2019 21:10:31 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Chris in Makati
On Sun, 19 May 2019 16:25:19 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Chris in Makati
On Sat, 18 May 2019 15:11:37 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Chris in Makati
On Fri, 17 May 2019 21:09:46 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Chris in Makati
On Thu, 16 May 2019 16:10:20 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Wed, 15 May 2019 16:59:11 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Wed, 15 May 2019 15:54:35 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Wed, 15 May 2019 12:09:03 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Anyway it's worth it to get rid of the monumentally stupid £5.99 shit. It does not look less than £6, we're not thick!

In just a quick glance at the price £5.99 looks to be a £ cheaper than
£6 and £6.00

Er, only if you're an idiot. Although in the same way, all those 9s could make other idiots think it was more.

It was randomly tested on lots of people shopping in the Manchester
Arndale about 30 years ago. Guess who worked in the Arndale?

Er.... ok. So what did you treat yourself to with those 5ps?

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
Then I noticed that it was £34.95 for two bottles.

You mean they didn't take off another 5p?

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
I'm not
safe when I shop! These days I do my shopping online and get
everything delivered.

I'm in a wheelchair these days and so I avoid all shops, even the
wheelchair friendly ones!

But you can rent (they might even be free) those electric supermarket things that go at 1mph and knock everything over. You'd have great fun barging into people's ankles.

Why is someone more likely to do that than with a regular trolley? Didn't they go through the same exit (as in past the tills?)
And why on earth did they go back?!!?

They went back to pay for the shopping. Did you miss the part where he
said they had forgotten to do so?

But they could have got the stuff for free!

Yes, you can always steal other people's property.
Do you do that kind of thing regularly?

It wasn't theft it was a mistake.

If you leave without paying, they notice and stop you there and then. Clearly you would have got away with it.

But in this case the shop didn't notice and they didn't get stopped.

There you go then, they could have had those goods for free.

When you say "they could have had those goods for free" you mean they
could have got away with stealing them.

The company that owns the shop will be 50000 times richer than them. They won't miss it.

If that's the answer to the question I asked, then your answer is yes,
it's just fine to steal from someone richer than you?

Commander Kinsey

2019-05-21 18:11:46 UTC

Post by Chris in Makati
On Mon, 20 May 2019 21:10:31 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Chris in Makati
On Sun, 19 May 2019 16:25:19 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Chris in Makati
On Sat, 18 May 2019 15:11:37 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Chris in Makati
On Fri, 17 May 2019 21:09:46 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Chris in Makati
On Thu, 16 May 2019 16:10:20 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

On Thu, 16 May 2019 13:01:33 +0100, Stephen Wolstenholme <ste=

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Wed, 15 May 2019 16:59:11 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

On Wed, 15 May 2019 16:25:23 +0100, Stephen Wolstenholme <s=

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Wed, 15 May 2019 15:54:35 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

On Wed, 15 May 2019 15:25:08 +0100, Stephen Wolstenholme =

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Wed, 15 May 2019 12:09:03 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Anyway it's worth it to get rid of the monumentally stu=

pid =A35.99 shit. It does not look less than =A36, we're not thick!

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
In just a quick glance at the price =A35.99 looks to be =

a =A3 cheaper than

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
=A36 and =A36.00

Er, only if you're an idiot. Although in the same way, a=

ll those 9s could make other idiots think it was more.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
It was randomly tested on lots of people shopping in the M=

anchester

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
Arndale about 30 years ago. Guess who worked in the Arndal=

Manchester is renowned for stupidity.
When I see =A34.99, I automatically think "That means =A35"=

- all it does is annoy me, especially if there's 10 items all with 99 o=
n the end.

It did make me laugh once when I bought something for =A319=

.99 and the shop assistant (if that's what you call them - teller? cashi=
er?) insisted on giving me the penny change which she didn't have. I to=
ld her not to be ridiculous but she wouldn't listen and wandered off to =
find a manager. I left the store a penny short and didn't bother waitin=
g.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
Years ago when I did the same shopping every week a wine=

that I like

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
was over 20 quid a bottle and that price was stuck in my=

mind. Then it

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
changed to =A319.95 a bottle at the same shop so it seem=

ed like a

Er.... ok. So what did you treat yourself to with those =

5ps?

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
Then I noticed that it was =A334.95 for two bottles.

You mean they didn't take off another 5p?

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
I'm not
safe when I shop! These days I do my shopping online and=

get

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
everything delivered.

I stopped doing that, since I now use 4 supermarkets. So=

me are cheaper for some things, some are cheaper for others, plus some h=
ave better quality of certain items. It's not too much hassle, as I onl=
y shop every 3 weeks and make extensive use of the freezer.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
I'm in a wheelchair these days and so I avoid all shops, e=

ven the

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
wheelchair friendly ones!

But you can rent (they might even be free) those electric s=

upermarket things that go at 1mph and knock everything over. You'd have=
great fun barging into people's ankles.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
My wife and my carer went shopping yesterday. They "borrowed=

" one the

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
shopping things at the supermarket and filled it up. Then th=

ey went

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
back to the car, transferred the shopping into the boot and =

drove back

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
home. Then they realised they had forgotten to pay for the s=

hopping.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
My wife went back to the supermarket and explained what she =

had done.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
It took about 30 minutes to correct the mistake and work out=

why the

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
alarm had not gone off. The manager apologised for the incon=

venience!

Why is someone more likely to do that than with a regular tro=

lley? Didn't they go through the same exit (as in past the tills?)

And why on earth did they go back?!!?

They went back to pay for the shopping. Did you miss the part =

where he

Post by Chris in Makati
said they had forgotten to do so?

But they could have got the stuff for free!

Yes, you can always steal other people's property.
Do you do that kind of thing regularly?

It wasn't theft it was a mistake.

You try telling the judge that you drove home with a trolley load =

Post by Chris in Makati
stuff from the supermarket without paying, and it was all just a
mistake. Then when you realised what happened you failed to take a=

Post by Chris in Makati
action to pay the money you owed, and that was just a mistake too.=

If you leave without paying, they notice and stop you there and the=

n. Clearly you would have got away with it.

Post by Chris in Makati
But in this case the shop didn't notice and they didn't get stopped.=

There you go then, they could have had those goods for free.

When you say "they could have had those goods for free" you mean they
could have got away with stealing them.

Which is free. And it's not stealing, stealing implies they did it deli=
berately.

Post by Chris in Makati
They got all the way home before they realised they hadn't paid for
the things they had taken. They were honest enough to go back to the=
shop and pay for the goods.
Then you ask why they went back? If you get away with stealing does
that make it ok in your opinion? If not then why did you need to ask=
why they went back? I suppose the real answer is not everyone is
dishonest. Some people try to do what they know is the right.

The company that owns the shop will be 50000 times richer than them. =

They won't miss it.

Post by Chris in Makati
If that's the answer to the question I asked, then your answer is yes,=
it's just fine to steal from someone richer than you?

Agreed.

Commander Kinsey

2019-05-18 14:12:04 UTC

Post by Chris in Makati
On Fri, 17 May 2019 21:09:46 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Chris in Makati
On Thu, 16 May 2019 16:10:20 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Wed, 15 May 2019 16:59:11 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Wed, 15 May 2019 15:54:35 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

On Wed, 15 May 2019 15:25:08 +0100, Stephen Wolstenholme <steve=

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Wed, 15 May 2019 12:09:03 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Anyway it's worth it to get rid of the monumentally stupid =A3=

5.99 shit. It does not look less than =A36, we're not thick!

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
In just a quick glance at the price =A35.99 looks to be a =A3 =

cheaper than

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
=A36 and =A36.00

Er, only if you're an idiot. Although in the same way, all tho=

se 9s could make other idiots think it was more.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
It was randomly tested on lots of people shopping in the Manches=

ter

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
Arndale about 30 years ago. Guess who worked in the Arndale?

Manchester is renowned for stupidity.
When I see =A34.99, I automatically think "That means =A35" - all=

it does is annoy me, especially if there's 10 items all with 99 on the =
end.

Post by Commander Kinsey
It did make me laugh once when I bought something for =A319.99 an=

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
Years ago when I did the same shopping every week a wine that =

I like

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
was over 20 quid a bottle and that price was stuck in my mind.=

Then it

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
changed to =A319.95 a bottle at the same shop so it seemed lik=

e a

Er.... ok. So what did you treat yourself to with those 5ps?

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
Then I noticed that it was =A334.95 for two bottles.

You mean they didn't take off another 5p?

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
I'm not
safe when I shop! These days I do my shopping online and get
everything delivered.

I stopped doing that, since I now use 4 supermarkets. Some are=

cheaper for some things, some are cheaper for others, plus some have be=
tter quality of certain items. It's not too much hassle, as I only shop=
every 3 weeks and make extensive use of the freezer.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
I'm in a wheelchair these days and so I avoid all shops, even th=

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
wheelchair friendly ones!

But you can rent (they might even be free) those electric superma=

rket things that go at 1mph and knock everything over. You'd have great=
fun barging into people's ankles.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
My wife and my carer went shopping yesterday. They "borrowed" one =

the

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
shopping things at the supermarket and filled it up. Then they wen=

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
back to the car, transferred the shopping into the boot and drove =

back

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
home. Then they realised they had forgotten to pay for the shoppin=

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
My wife went back to the supermarket and explained what she had do=

ne.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
It took about 30 minutes to correct the mistake and work out why t=

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
alarm had not gone off. The manager apologised for the inconvenien=

ce!

Why is someone more likely to do that than with a regular trolley? =

Didn't they go through the same exit (as in past the tills?)

And why on earth did they go back?!!?

They went back to pay for the shopping. Did you miss the part where =

Post by Chris in Makati
said they had forgotten to do so?

But they could have got the stuff for free!

Yes, you can always steal other people's property.
Do you do that kind of thing regularly?

Well I'm not always honest when the Aldi worker says "how many of those =
have you bought" :-)

Stephen Wolstenholme

2019-05-17 10:22:28 UTC

On Thu, 16 May 2019 16:10:20 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Wed, 15 May 2019 16:59:11 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Wed, 15 May 2019 15:54:35 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Wed, 15 May 2019 12:09:03 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Anyway it's worth it to get rid of the monumentally stupid £5.99 shit. It does not look less than £6, we're not thick!

In just a quick glance at the price £5.99 looks to be a £ cheaper than
£6 and £6.00

Er, only if you're an idiot. Although in the same way, all those 9s could make other idiots think it was more.

It was randomly tested on lots of people shopping in the Manchester
Arndale about 30 years ago. Guess who worked in the Arndale?

Er.... ok. So what did you treat yourself to with those 5ps?

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
Then I noticed that it was £34.95 for two bottles.

You mean they didn't take off another 5p?

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
I'm not
safe when I shop! These days I do my shopping online and get
everything delivered.

I'm in a wheelchair these days and so I avoid all shops, even the
wheelchair friendly ones!

But you can rent (they might even be free) those electric supermarket things that go at 1mph and knock everything over. You'd have great fun barging into people's ankles.

Why is someone more likely to do that than with a regular trolley? Didn't they go through the same exit (as in past the tills?)

They are "regular" at some supermarkets. They can go to different
exits to avoid some queues. That's the way shopping is going. The most
automated shopping system I have heard of is the one my Auntie in LA
uses. All she does is wave a card at each item that would normally be
for the shopping trolley. She does not need a trolley. The whole lot
arrives home before she does.

And why on earth did they go back?!!?

Wife is very honest. Carer could lose her job. More women than men go
shopping and more women than men steal items when shopping. The
supermarkets often prosecute despite the legal costs being much higher
than a trolley full of groceries!

Steve

--
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Commander Kinsey

2019-05-17 20:18:49 UTC

Post by Chris in Makati
On Thu, 16 May 2019 16:10:20 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Wed, 15 May 2019 16:59:11 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Wed, 15 May 2019 15:54:35 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Wed, 15 May 2019 12:09:03 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Anyway it's worth it to get rid of the monumentally stupid =A35=

.99 shit. It does not look less than =A36, we're not thick!

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
In just a quick glance at the price =A35.99 looks to be a =A3 ch=

eaper than

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
=A36 and =A36.00

Er, only if you're an idiot. Although in the same way, all those=

9s could make other idiots think it was more.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
It was randomly tested on lots of people shopping in the Mancheste=

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
Arndale about 30 years ago. Guess who worked in the Arndale?

Manchester is renowned for stupidity.
When I see =A34.99, I automatically think "That means =A35" - all i=

t does is annoy me, especially if there's 10 items all with 99 on the en=
d.

Post by Commander Kinsey
It did make me laugh once when I bought something for =A319.99 and =

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
Years ago when I did the same shopping every week a wine that I =

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
was over 20 quid a bottle and that price was stuck in my mind. T=

hen it

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
changed to =A319.95 a bottle at the same shop so it seemed like =

Er.... ok. So what did you treat yourself to with those 5ps?

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
Then I noticed that it was =A334.95 for two bottles.

You mean they didn't take off another 5p?

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
I'm not
safe when I shop! These days I do my shopping online and get
everything delivered.

I stopped doing that, since I now use 4 supermarkets. Some are c=

heaper for some things, some are cheaper for others, plus some have bett=
er quality of certain items. It's not too much hassle, as I only shop e=
very 3 weeks and make extensive use of the freezer.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
I'm in a wheelchair these days and so I avoid all shops, even the
wheelchair friendly ones!

But you can rent (they might even be free) those electric supermark=

et things that go at 1mph and knock everything over. You'd have great f=
un barging into people's ankles.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
My wife and my carer went shopping yesterday. They "borrowed" one th=

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
shopping things at the supermarket and filled it up. Then they went
back to the car, transferred the shopping into the boot and drove ba=

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
home. Then they realised they had forgotten to pay for the shopping.=
My wife went back to the supermarket and explained what she had done=

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
It took about 30 minutes to correct the mistake and work out why the=
alarm had not gone off. The manager apologised for the inconvenience=

Why is someone more likely to do that than with a regular trolley? D=

idn't they go through the same exit (as in past the tills?)

Post by Chris in Makati
They are "regular" at some supermarkets. They can go to different
exits to avoid some queues. That's the way shopping is going. The most=
automated shopping system I have heard of is the one my Auntie in LA
uses. All she does is wave a card at each item that would normally be
for the shopping trolley. She does not need a trolley. The whole lot
arrives home before she does.

That is very strange indeed. Why go to the supermarket if it's being de=
livered anyway? Why not order online?

And why on earth did they go back?!!?

If they left without being chased by a security guard, they weren't noti=
ced.

Chris in Makati

2019-05-15 23:18:18 UTC

On Wed, 15 May 2019 12:09:03 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Chris in Makati
On Mon, 13 May 2019 15:59:43 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Chris in Makati
On Sun, 12 May 2019 16:24:04 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Commander Kinsey
Why can't we get rid of 1p, 2p, 5p coins? They're virtually worthless.

We can get rid of them, but the Treasury has decided not to.
If we did then prices would have to be rounded off to the nearest 5p,
and you can bet your life they'd be rounded UP to the nearest 5p.

So even if (and it's a very big if) Tesco did reduce the price from
47p to 45p and Asda increased it to 50p then the average price of that
product has increased by 0.5p.
You must have forgotten what happened in 1971 with decimalisation.
Prices had to be rounded off, and in almost every case they were
rounded upwards.
Rather than reducing the price to 45p, past experience has shown that
both stores would increase the price to 50p.

A store has to make a certain profit to stay in business. Prices will be adjusted for that, and competition with others.
Anyway it's worth it to get rid of the monumentally stupid £5.99 shit. It does not look less than £6, we're not thick!

Actually £5.99 is less than £6

If you got rid of 1p, 2p and 5p coins they'd just show it as £5.90.

I can't remember the last time I used cash in a supermarket anyway, so
the issue of getting rid of small coins has got little to do with the
way prices are expressed. In fact I hardly ever use cash anywhere
these days, but many older people still do.

Commander Kinsey

2019-05-15 23:33:56 UTC

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Wed, 15 May 2019 12:09:03 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Chris in Makati
On Mon, 13 May 2019 15:59:43 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Chris in Makati
On Sun, 12 May 2019 16:24:04 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Why can't we get rid of 1p, 2p, 5p coins? They're virtually wort=

hless.

Post by Chris in Makati
We can get rid of them, but the Treasury has decided not to.
If we did then prices would have to be rounded off to the nearest =

5p,

Post by Chris in Makati
and you can bet your life they'd be rounded UP to the nearest 5p.

Rubbish. Prices are governed by competition between businesses. I=

f you currently buy something in Asda for 47p, they could make it 50p, b=
ut Tesco might make it 45p and everyone would go there instead.

Post by Chris in Makati
So even if (and it's a very big if) Tesco did reduce the price from
47p to 45p and Asda increased it to 50p then the average price of th=

Post by Chris in Makati
product has increased by 0.5p.
You must have forgotten what happened in 1971 with decimalisation.
Prices had to be rounded off, and in almost every case they were
rounded upwards.
Rather than reducing the price to 45p, past experience has shown tha=

Post by Chris in Makati
both stores would increase the price to 50p.

A store has to make a certain profit to stay in business. Prices wil=

l be adjusted for that, and competition with others.

Anyway it's worth it to get rid of the monumentally stupid =A35.99 sh=

it. It does not look less than =A36, we're not thick!

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
Actually =A35.99 is less than =A36

Not by most people's standards. It's a 6th of a percent, not even enoug=
h to trigger a speed camera.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
If you got rid of 1p, 2p and 5p coins they'd just show it as =A35.90.

Which would be preferable.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
I can't remember the last time I used cash in a supermarket anyway, so=
the issue of getting rid of small coins has got little to do with the
way prices are expressed.

Wrong, the prices are based on the available denominations. As you said=
above, getting rid of the 3 smallest coins would change prices to =A35.=
90.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
In fact I hardly ever use cash anywhere
these days, but many older people still do.

Cash is useful any time you want to pay someone who isn't a big business=
, like a gardener, or your neighbour. For example I ordered something o=
n Ebay for my neighbour, she paid me some cash for it. It would have be=
en more hassle to do some kind of bank transfer.

Flop

2019-05-16 10:40:44 UTC

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Wed, 15 May 2019 12:09:03 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Chris in Makati
On Mon, 13 May 2019 15:59:43 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

On Mon, 13 May 2019 01:11:07 +0100, Chris in Makati

Post by Chris in Makati
On Sun, 12 May 2019 16:24:04 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Why can't we get rid of 1p, 2p, 5p coins? They're virtually
worthless.

We can get rid of them, but the Treasury has decided not to.
If we did then prices would have to be rounded off to the nearest 5p,
and you can bet your life they'd be rounded UP to the nearest 5p.

Rubbish. Prices are governed by competition between businesses.
If you currently buy something in Asda for 47p, they could make it
50p, but Tesco might make it 45p and everyone would go there instead.

So even if (and it's a very big if) Tesco did reduce the price from
47p to 45p and Asda increased it to 50p then the average price of that
product has increased by 0.5p.
You must have forgotten what happened in 1971 with decimalisation.
Prices had to be rounded off, and in almost every case they were
rounded upwards.
Rather than reducing the price to 45p, past experience has shown that
both stores would increase the price to 50p.

A store has to make a certain profit to stay in business. Prices
will be adjusted for that, and competition with others.
Anyway it's worth it to get rid of the monumentally stupid £5.99
shit. It does not look less than £6, we're not thick!

Actually £5.99 is less than £6

Not by most people's standards. It's a 6th of a percent, not even
enough to trigger a speed camera.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
If you got rid of 1p, 2p and 5p coins they'd just show it as £5.90.

Which would be preferable.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
I can't remember the last time I used cash in a supermarket anyway, so
the issue of getting rid of small coins has got little to do with the
way prices are expressed.

Wrong, the prices are based on the available denominations. As you said
above, getting rid of the 3 smallest coins would change prices to £5.90.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
In fact I hardly ever use cash anywhere
these days, but many older people still do.

Cash is useful any time you want to pay someone who isn't a big
business, like a gardener, or your neighbour. For example I ordered
something on Ebay for my neighbour, she paid me some cash for it. It
would have been more hassle to do some kind of bank transfer.

The Republic of Ireland has stopped minting 1¢ and 2¢ coins.

Supermarkets have kept the original prices and then round up or down at
the till.

see:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_euro_coins

--
Flop

Truly the Good Lord gave us computers that we might learn patience

Commander Kinsey

2019-05-16 15:11:03 UTC

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Wed, 15 May 2019 12:09:03 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Chris in Makati
On Mon, 13 May 2019 15:59:43 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

On Mon, 13 May 2019 01:11:07 +0100, Chris in Makati

Post by Chris in Makati
On Sun, 12 May 2019 16:24:04 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Commander Kinsey
Why can't we get rid of 1p, 2p, 5p coins? They're virtually worthless.

We can get rid of them, but the Treasury has decided not to.
If we did then prices would have to be rounded off to the neares=

t 5p,

Post by Chris in Makati
and you can bet your life they'd be rounded UP to the nearest 5p=

Rubbish. Prices are governed by competition between businesses.
If you currently buy something in Asda for 47p, they could make i=

50p, but Tesco might make it 45p and everyone would go there inst=

ead.

Post by Chris in Makati
So even if (and it's a very big if) Tesco did reduce the price fro=

Post by Chris in Makati
47p to 45p and Asda increased it to 50p then the average price of =

that

Post by Chris in Makati
product has increased by 0.5p.
You must have forgotten what happened in 1971 with decimalisation.=
Prices had to be rounded off, and in almost every case they were
rounded upwards.
Rather than reducing the price to 45p, past experience has shown t=

hat

Post by Chris in Makati
both stores would increase the price to 50p.

A store has to make a certain profit to stay in business. Prices
will be adjusted for that, and competition with others.
Anyway it's worth it to get rid of the monumentally stupid =A35.99
shit. It does not look less than =A36, we're not thick!

Actually =A35.99 is less than =A36

Not by most people's standards. It's a 6th of a percent, not even
enough to trigger a speed camera.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
If you got rid of 1p, 2p and 5p coins they'd just show it as =A35.90=

Post by Commander Kinsey
Which would be preferable.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
I can't remember the last time I used cash in a supermarket anyway, =

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
the issue of getting rid of small coins has got little to do with th=

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
way prices are expressed.

Wrong, the prices are based on the available denominations. As you s=

aid

Post by Commander Kinsey
above, getting rid of the 3 smallest coins would change prices to =A3=

5.90.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
In fact I hardly ever use cash anywhere
these days, but many older people still do.

Cash is useful any time you want to pay someone who isn't a big
business, like a gardener, or your neighbour. For example I ordered
something on Ebay for my neighbour, she paid me some cash for it. It=
would have been more hassle to do some kind of bank transfer.

The Republic of Ireland has stopped minting 1=A2 and 2=A2 coins.
Supermarkets have kept the original prices and then round up or down a=

the till.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_euro_coins

Some sense from Ireland, well I never!

Commander Kinsey

2019-05-16 15:13:16 UTC

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Wed, 15 May 2019 12:09:03 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Chris in Makati
On Mon, 13 May 2019 15:59:43 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

On Mon, 13 May 2019 01:11:07 +0100, Chris in Makati

Post by Chris in Makati
On Sun, 12 May 2019 16:24:04 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Commander Kinsey
Why can't we get rid of 1p, 2p, 5p coins? They're virtually worthless.

We can get rid of them, but the Treasury has decided not to.
If we did then prices would have to be rounded off to the neares=

t 5p,

Post by Chris in Makati
and you can bet your life they'd be rounded UP to the nearest 5p=

Rubbish. Prices are governed by competition between businesses.
If you currently buy something in Asda for 47p, they could make i=

50p, but Tesco might make it 45p and everyone would go there inst=

ead.

Post by Chris in Makati
So even if (and it's a very big if) Tesco did reduce the price fro=

Post by Chris in Makati
47p to 45p and Asda increased it to 50p then the average price of =

that

hat

Post by Chris in Makati
both stores would increase the price to 50p.

Actually =A35.99 is less than =A36

Not by most people's standards. It's a 6th of a percent, not even
enough to trigger a speed camera.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
If you got rid of 1p, 2p and 5p coins they'd just show it as =A35.90=

Post by Commander Kinsey
Which would be preferable.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
I can't remember the last time I used cash in a supermarket anyway, =

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
the issue of getting rid of small coins has got little to do with th=

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
way prices are expressed.

Wrong, the prices are based on the available denominations. As you s=

aid

Post by Commander Kinsey
above, getting rid of the 3 smallest coins would change prices to =A3=

5.90.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
In fact I hardly ever use cash anywhere
these days, but many older people still do.

Cash is useful any time you want to pay someone who isn't a big
business, like a gardener, or your neighbour. For example I ordered
something on Ebay for my neighbour, she paid me some cash for it. It=
would have been more hassle to do some kind of bank transfer.

The Republic of Ireland has stopped minting 1=A2 and 2=A2 coins.
Supermarkets have kept the original prices and then round up or down a=

the till.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_euro_coins

Do they still round it if you pay by card?

Flop

2019-05-16 17:16:33 UTC

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Wed, 15 May 2019 12:09:03 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Chris in Makati
On Mon, 13 May 2019 15:59:43 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

On Mon, 13 May 2019 01:11:07 +0100, Chris in Makati

Post by Chris in Makati
On Sun, 12 May 2019 16:24:04 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Why can't we get rid of 1p, 2p, 5p coins? They're virtually
worthless.

We can get rid of them, but the Treasury has decided not to.
If we did then prices would have to be rounded off to the nearest 5p,
and you can bet your life they'd be rounded UP to the nearest 5p.

Rubbish. Prices are governed by competition between businesses.
If you currently buy something in Asda for 47p, they could make it
50p, but Tesco might make it 45p and everyone would go there instead.

So even if (and it's a very big if) Tesco did reduce the price from
47p to 45p and Asda increased it to 50p then the average price of that
product has increased by 0.5p.
You must have forgotten what happened in 1971 with decimalisation.
Prices had to be rounded off, and in almost every case they were
rounded upwards.
Rather than reducing the price to 45p, past experience has shown that
both stores would increase the price to 50p.

A store has to make a certain profit to stay in business. Prices
will be adjusted for that, and competition with others.
Anyway it's worth it to get rid of the monumentally stupid £5.99
shit. It does not look less than £6, we're not thick!

Actually £5.99 is less than £6

Not by most people's standards. It's a 6th of a percent, not even
enough to trigger a speed camera.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
If you got rid of 1p, 2p and 5p coins they'd just show it as £5.90.

Which would be preferable.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
I can't remember the last time I used cash in a supermarket anyway, so
the issue of getting rid of small coins has got little to do with the
way prices are expressed.

Wrong, the prices are based on the available denominations. As you said
above, getting rid of the 3 smallest coins would change prices to £5.90.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
In fact I hardly ever use cash anywhere
these days, but many older people still do.

The Republic of Ireland has stopped minting 1¢ and 2¢ coins.
Supermarkets have kept the original prices and then round up or down at
the till.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_euro_coins

Do they still round it if you pay by card?

I think so because the till produces a rounded total.

This value would then be fed to the card reader.

--
Flop

Truly the Good Lord gave us computers that we might learn patience

Commander Kinsey

2019-05-16 18:28:07 UTC

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Wed, 15 May 2019 12:09:03 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

com>

Post by Chris in Makati
On Mon, 13 May 2019 15:59:43 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

On Mon, 13 May 2019 01:11:07 +0100, Chris in Makati

Post by Chris in Makati
On Sun, 12 May 2019 16:24:04 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Commander Kinsey
Why can't we get rid of 1p, 2p, 5p coins? They're virtually worthless.

We can get rid of them, but the Treasury has decided not to.
If we did then prices would have to be rounded off to the nearest 5p,
and you can bet your life they'd be rounded UP to the nearest =

5p.

Rubbish. Prices are governed by competition between businesses=

If you currently buy something in Asda for 47p, they could make=

50p, but Tesco might make it 45p and everyone would go there instead.

So even if (and it's a very big if) Tesco did reduce the price f=

rom

Post by Chris in Makati
47p to 45p and Asda increased it to 50p then the average price o=

Post by Chris in Makati
that
product has increased by 0.5p.
You must have forgotten what happened in 1971 with decimalisatio=

Post by Chris in Makati
Prices had to be rounded off, and in almost every case they were=
rounded upwards.
Rather than reducing the price to 45p, past experience has shown=

that

Post by Chris in Makati
both stores would increase the price to 50p.

A store has to make a certain profit to stay in business. Prices=
will be adjusted for that, and competition with others.
Anyway it's worth it to get rid of the monumentally stupid =A35.9=

shit. It does not look less than =A36, we're not thick!

Actually =A35.99 is less than =A36

Not by most people's standards. It's a 6th of a percent, not even
enough to trigger a speed camera.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
If you got rid of 1p, 2p and 5p coins they'd just show it as =A35.=

90.

Post by Commander Kinsey
Which would be preferable.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
I can't remember the last time I used cash in a supermarket anyway=

, so

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
the issue of getting rid of small coins has got little to do with =

the

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
way prices are expressed.

Wrong, the prices are based on the available denominations. As you=

said

Post by Commander Kinsey
above, getting rid of the 3 smallest coins would change prices to =A3=

5.90.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
In fact I hardly ever use cash anywhere
these days, but many older people still do.

Cash is useful any time you want to pay someone who isn't a big
business, like a gardener, or your neighbour. For example I ordere=

Post by Commander Kinsey
something on Ebay for my neighbour, she paid me some cash for it. =

Post by Commander Kinsey
would have been more hassle to do some kind of bank transfer.

The Republic of Ireland has stopped minting 1=A2 and 2=A2 coins.
Supermarkets have kept the original prices and then round up or down=

the till.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_euro_coins

Do they still round it if you pay by card?

I think so because the till produces a rounded total.
This value would then be fed to the card reader.

I guess they'd have to or you'd get some annoying customers complaining =
because the woman in front got away with a cent off.

Stephen Wolstenholme

2019-05-16 12:17:44 UTC

On Thu, 16 May 2019 00:33:56 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

It would have been more hassle to do some kind of bank transfer.

It's a lot easier than searching for coins.

I pay my gardener and my main carer by bank transfer. It's been setup
in my Lloyd Internet account for years. My wife has tried to get her
RBS Internet account to do the same thing but it's so "secure" that
it's impossible to use!

Steve

--
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Commander Kinsey

2019-05-16 15:09:15 UTC

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Thu, 16 May 2019 00:33:56 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

It would have been more hassle to do some kind of bank transfer.

It's a lot easier than searching for coins.

She didn't search, she just took a fiver out of her purse.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
I pay my gardener and my main carer by bank transfer. It's been setup
in my Lloyd Internet account for years. My wife has tried to get her
RBS Internet account to do the same thing but it's so "secure" that
it's impossible to use!

Way too much hassle. Handing someone a twenty quid note is way easier. I wouldn't mind if they could take cards, but portable card readers cost too much.

Chris in Makati

2019-05-17 04:51:31 UTC

On Thu, 16 May 2019 16:09:15 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Thu, 16 May 2019 00:33:56 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

It would have been more hassle to do some kind of bank transfer.

It's a lot easier than searching for coins.

She didn't search, she just took a fiver out of her purse.

Way too much hassle. Handing someone a twenty quid note is way easier. I wouldn't mind if they could take cards, but portable card readers cost too much.

That's fine if it happens to be an exact number of Pounds, but what if
the eBay item was £15.50? One of you would have had to search around
for the right change to give.

This is one of the annoying things that happens in shops. People in
front of you in the queue spend ages counting out notes and coins to
hand to the cashier. I just tap my contactless card on the reader and
I'm out the door before the little old lady has ahead of me has got
her change back into her purse.

Commander Kinsey

2019-05-17 20:14:46 UTC

Post by Chris in Makati
On Thu, 16 May 2019 16:09:15 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Thu, 16 May 2019 00:33:56 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

It would have been more hassle to do some kind of bank transfer.

It's a lot easier than searching for coins.

She didn't search, she just took a fiver out of her purse.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
I pay my gardener and my main carer by bank transfer. It's been setu=

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
in my Lloyd Internet account for years. My wife has tried to get her=
RBS Internet account to do the same thing but it's so "secure" that
it's impossible to use!

Way too much hassle. Handing someone a twenty quid note is way easie=

r. I wouldn't mind if they could take cards, but portable card readers =
cost too much.

Post by Chris in Makati
That's fine if it happens to be an exact number of Pounds, but what if=
the eBay item was =A315.50? One of you would have had to search around=
for the right change to give.

No, somebody would just say keep the change. And people tend to have co=
ins kicking about. Cash is so much easier than farting around logging i=
nto bank accounts.

Post by Chris in Makati
This is one of the annoying things that happens in shops. People in
front of you in the queue spend ages counting out notes and coins to
hand to the cashier.

Nope. Last time I used cash, I just handed a few =A320 notes to the cas=
hier and got a handful of change back. Took no longer than using a card=
. She was getting the coins from the till while I was putting the goods=
in the trolley anyway.

Post by Chris in Makati
I just tap my contactless card on the reader and

Actually, you don't tap it. There's no physical detection of contact wi=
th the pad. You wave it nearby.

Post by Chris in Makati
I'm out the door before the little old lady has ahead of me has got
her change back into her purse.

Contactless cards are useless - who spends a small enough amount for tha=
t?! =A330 I think it is? Most supermarket shops are over =A350.

Chris in Makati

2019-05-18 02:32:40 UTC

On Fri, 17 May 2019 21:14:46 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Chris in Makati
On Thu, 16 May 2019 16:09:15 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Thu, 16 May 2019 00:33:56 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

It would have been more hassle to do some kind of bank transfer.

It's a lot easier than searching for coins.

She didn't search, she just took a fiver out of her purse.

Way too much hassle. Handing someone a twenty quid note is way easier. I wouldn't mind if they could take cards, but portable card readers cost too much.

That's fine if it happens to be an exact number of Pounds, but what if
the eBay item was £15.50? One of you would have had to search around
for the right change to give.

No, somebody would just say keep the change. And people tend to have coins kicking about. Cash is so much easier than farting around logging into bank accounts.

Post by Chris in Makati
This is one of the annoying things that happens in shops. People in
front of you in the queue spend ages counting out notes and coins to
hand to the cashier.

Nope. Last time I used cash, I just handed a few £20 notes to the cashier and got a handful of change back. Took no longer than using a card. She was getting the coins from the till while I was putting the goods in the trolley anyway.

Post by Chris in Makati
I just tap my contactless card on the reader and

Actually, you don't tap it. There's no physical detection of contact with the pad. You wave it nearby.

Actually, I do tap it.

http://www.theukcardsassociation.org.uk/contactless_consumer/How_to_use_a_Contactless_card.asp

"Simply touch your contactless card or device against the terminal."

You wave your card around like a flag if you want. It's better to hold
it steady to let the terminal read it.

Commander Kinsey

2019-05-18 14:13:29 UTC

Post by Chris in Makati
On Fri, 17 May 2019 21:14:46 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Chris in Makati
On Thu, 16 May 2019 16:09:15 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Thu, 16 May 2019 00:33:56 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

It would have been more hassle to do some kind of bank transfer.

It's a lot easier than searching for coins.

She didn't search, she just took a fiver out of her purse.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
I pay my gardener and my main carer by bank transfer. It's been se=

tup

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
in my Lloyd Internet account for years. My wife has tried to get h=

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
RBS Internet account to do the same thing but it's so "secure" tha=

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
it's impossible to use!

Way too much hassle. Handing someone a twenty quid note is way eas=

ier. I wouldn't mind if they could take cards, but portable card reader=
s cost too much.

Post by Chris in Makati
That's fine if it happens to be an exact number of Pounds, but what =

Post by Chris in Makati
the eBay item was =A315.50? One of you would have had to search arou=

Post by Chris in Makati
for the right change to give.

No, somebody would just say keep the change. And people tend to have=

coins kicking about. Cash is so much easier than farting around loggin=
g into bank accounts.

Post by Chris in Makati
This is one of the annoying things that happens in shops. People in
front of you in the queue spend ages counting out notes and coins to=
hand to the cashier.

Nope. Last time I used cash, I just handed a few =A320 notes to the =

cashier and got a handful of change back. Took no longer than using a c=
ard. She was getting the coins from the till while I was putting the go=
ods in the trolley anyway.

Post by Chris in Makati
I just tap my contactless card on the reader and

Actually, you don't tap it. There's no physical detection of contact=

with the pad. You wave it nearby.

Post by Chris in Makati
Actually, I do tap it.
http://www.theukcardsassociation.org.uk/contactless_consumer/How_to_us=

e_a_Contactless_card.asp

Post by Chris in Makati
"Simply touch your contactless card or device against the terminal."
You wave your card around like a flag if you want. It's better to hold=
it steady to let the terminal read it.

Tapping is not holding it steady. A tap is a fraction of a second.

Anyway, I'll stick to simply inserting the card and typing my pin number=
. Hey guess what, people can steal your money, they just have to take y=
our card and provide no proof that they're you. What a fucking stupidl=
y insecure idea.

Stephen Wolstenholme

2019-05-17 10:28:25 UTC

On Thu, 16 May 2019 16:09:15 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Thu, 16 May 2019 00:33:56 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

It would have been more hassle to do some kind of bank transfer.

It's a lot easier than searching for coins.

She didn't search, she just took a fiver out of her purse.

Way too much hassle. Handing someone a twenty quid note is way easier. I wouldn't mind if they could take cards, but portable card readers cost too much.

I don't carry any money or cards.

Steve

--
http://www.npsnn.com

Commander Kinsey

2019-05-17 20:19:09 UTC

Post by Chris in Makati
On Thu, 16 May 2019 16:09:15 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Thu, 16 May 2019 00:33:56 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

It would have been more hassle to do some kind of bank transfer.

It's a lot easier than searching for coins.

She didn't search, she just took a fiver out of her purse.

Way too much hassle. Handing someone a twenty quid note is way easier. I wouldn't mind if they could take cards, but portable card readers cost too much.

I don't carry any money or cards.

How on earth do you buy things?

Stephen Wolstenholme

2019-05-17 22:19:35 UTC

On Fri, 17 May 2019 21:19:09 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Chris in Makati
On Thu, 16 May 2019 16:09:15 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Thu, 16 May 2019 00:33:56 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

It would have been more hassle to do some kind of bank transfer.

It's a lot easier than searching for coins.

She didn't search, she just took a fiver out of her purse.

Way too much hassle. Handing someone a twenty quid note is way easier. I wouldn't mind if they could take cards, but portable card readers cost too much.

I don't carry any money or cards.

How on earth do you buy things?

I don't buy anything. I get lots of presents.

Steve

--
http://www.npsnn.com

Commander Kinsey

2019-05-17 22:49:26 UTC

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Fri, 17 May 2019 21:19:09 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Chris in Makati
On Thu, 16 May 2019 16:09:15 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Thu, 16 May 2019 00:33:56 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

It would have been more hassle to do some kind of bank transfer.

It's a lot easier than searching for coins.

She didn't search, she just took a fiver out of her purse.

Way too much hassle. Handing someone a twenty quid note is way easier. I wouldn't mind if they could take cards, but portable card readers cost too much.

I don't carry any money or cards.

How on earth do you buy things?

I don't buy anything. I get lots of presents.

And they happen to fulfill your every need?

Chris in Makati

2019-05-18 02:32:40 UTC

On Fri, 17 May 2019 21:19:09 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Chris in Makati
On Thu, 16 May 2019 16:09:15 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Thu, 16 May 2019 00:33:56 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

It would have been more hassle to do some kind of bank transfer.

It's a lot easier than searching for coins.

She didn't search, she just took a fiver out of her purse.

Way too much hassle. Handing someone a twenty quid note is way easier. I wouldn't mind if they could take cards, but portable card readers cost too much.

I don't carry any money or cards.

How on earth do you buy things?

Apple Pay, Google Pay etc.

Commander Kinsey

2019-05-18 14:16:00 UTC

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Fri, 17 May 2019 21:19:09 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Chris in Makati
On Thu, 16 May 2019 16:09:15 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Thu, 16 May 2019 00:33:56 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

It would have been more hassle to do some kind of bank transfer.

It's a lot easier than searching for coins.

She didn't search, she just took a fiver out of her purse.

Way too much hassle. Handing someone a twenty quid note is way easier. I wouldn't mind if they could take cards, but portable card readers cost too much.

I don't carry any money or cards.

How on earth do you buy things?

Apple Pay, Google Pay etc.

So you have to carry a phone around with you, I just carry a card which is 10 times smaller, and doesn't get upset if it rains or if it falls out of my pocket.

Chris in Makati

2019-05-19 14:31:56 UTC

On Sat, 18 May 2019 15:16:00 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Fri, 17 May 2019 21:19:09 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Chris in Makati
On Thu, 16 May 2019 16:09:15 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Thu, 16 May 2019 00:33:56 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

It would have been more hassle to do some kind of bank transfer.

It's a lot easier than searching for coins.

She didn't search, she just took a fiver out of her purse.

Way too much hassle. Handing someone a twenty quid note is way easier. I wouldn't mind if they could take cards, but portable card readers cost too much.

I don't carry any money or cards.

How on earth do you buy things?

Apple Pay, Google Pay etc.

So you have to carry a phone around with you, I just carry a card which is 10 times smaller, and doesn't get upset if it rains or if it falls out of my pocket.

I take the phone around with me anyway. Most people who own mobile
phones do too. The payment option is just an additional function it
provides. Saves having to carry a wallet.

Commander Kinsey

2019-05-19 15:27:25 UTC

Post by Chris in Makati
On Sat, 18 May 2019 15:16:00 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Fri, 17 May 2019 21:19:09 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Chris in Makati
On Thu, 16 May 2019 16:09:15 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Thu, 16 May 2019 00:33:56 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

It would have been more hassle to do some kind of bank transfer.

It's a lot easier than searching for coins.

She didn't search, she just took a fiver out of her purse.

Way too much hassle. Handing someone a twenty quid note is way easier. I wouldn't mind if they could take cards, but portable card readers cost too much.

I don't carry any money or cards.

How on earth do you buy things?

Apple Pay, Google Pay etc.

So you have to carry a phone around with you, I just carry a card which is 10 times smaller, and doesn't get upset if it rains or if it falls out of my pocket.

I take the phone around with me anyway. Most people who own mobile
phones do too.

Do you have a magical phone which is immune to water? In this country it rains. Unfit for purpose.

Post by Chris in Makati
The payment option is just an additional function it
provides. Saves having to carry a wallet.

I don't, I carry one slim debit card, a tenth of the size of a phone.

And why on earth do you feel the need to make phonecalls when you're out?! Are you a teenager or something?

Chris in Makati

2019-05-20 00:32:49 UTC

On Sun, 19 May 2019 16:27:25 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Chris in Makati
On Sat, 18 May 2019 15:16:00 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Fri, 17 May 2019 21:19:09 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Chris in Makati
On Thu, 16 May 2019 16:09:15 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Thu, 16 May 2019 00:33:56 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

It would have been more hassle to do some kind of bank transfer.

It's a lot easier than searching for coins.

She didn't search, she just took a fiver out of her purse.

Way too much hassle. Handing someone a twenty quid note is way easier. I wouldn't mind if they could take cards, but portable card readers cost too much.

I don't carry any money or cards.

How on earth do you buy things?

Apple Pay, Google Pay etc.

So you have to carry a phone around with you, I just carry a card which is 10 times smaller, and doesn't get upset if it rains or if it falls out of my pocket.

I take the phone around with me anyway. Most people who own mobile
phones do too.

Do you have a magical phone which is immune to water? In this country it rains. Unfit for purpose.

I've been carrying mobiles phones around for the last 25 years, and
never once have I had one damaged by rain. Just use a bit of common
sense.

Post by Chris in Makati
The payment option is just an additional function it
provides. Saves having to carry a wallet.

I don't, I carry one slim debit card, a tenth of the size of a phone.
And why on earth do you feel the need to make phonecalls when you're out?! Are you a teenager or something?

No, I'm a manager in a multinational company. People call, text and
message me multiple times a day for all kinds of things. I need to
make decisions, I need to speak to staff, I need to speak to
customers, I need to do all the things that people in business
routinely do every day.

Commander Kinsey

2019-05-20 20:09:36 UTC

Post by Chris in Makati
On Sun, 19 May 2019 16:27:25 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Chris in Makati
On Sat, 18 May 2019 15:16:00 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Fri, 17 May 2019 21:19:09 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Chris in Makati
On Thu, 16 May 2019 16:09:15 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Thu, 16 May 2019 00:33:56 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

It would have been more hassle to do some kind of bank transfer.

It's a lot easier than searching for coins.

She didn't search, she just took a fiver out of her purse.

Way too much hassle. Handing someone a twenty quid note is way easier. I wouldn't mind if they could take cards, but portable card readers cost too much.

I don't carry any money or cards.

How on earth do you buy things?

Apple Pay, Google Pay etc.

So you have to carry a phone around with you, I just carry a card which is 10 times smaller, and doesn't get upset if it rains or if it falls out of my pocket.

I take the phone around with me anyway. Most people who own mobile
phones do too.

Do you have a magical phone which is immune to water? In this country it rains. Unfit for purpose.

I've been carrying mobiles phones around for the last 25 years, and
never once have I had one damaged by rain. Just use a bit of common
sense.

Like what? Conceal it in a waterproof bag? Manufacturers really need to design them properly.

Post by Chris in Makati
The payment option is just an additional function it
provides. Saves having to carry a wallet.

I don't, I carry one slim debit card, a tenth of the size of a phone.
And why on earth do you feel the need to make phonecalls when you're out?! Are you a teenager or something?

Most people don't do that stuff.

Chris in Makati

2019-05-21 00:36:33 UTC

On Mon, 20 May 2019 21:09:36 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Chris in Makati
On Sun, 19 May 2019 16:27:25 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Chris in Makati
On Sat, 18 May 2019 15:16:00 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Fri, 17 May 2019 21:19:09 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Chris in Makati
On Thu, 16 May 2019 16:09:15 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Thu, 16 May 2019 00:33:56 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

It would have been more hassle to do some kind of bank transfer.

It's a lot easier than searching for coins.

She didn't search, she just took a fiver out of her purse.

Way too much hassle. Handing someone a twenty quid note is way easier. I wouldn't mind if they could take cards, but portable card readers cost too much.

I don't carry any money or cards.

How on earth do you buy things?

Apple Pay, Google Pay etc.

So you have to carry a phone around with you, I just carry a card which is 10 times smaller, and doesn't get upset if it rains or if it falls out of my pocket.

I take the phone around with me anyway. Most people who own mobile
phones do too.

Do you have a magical phone which is immune to water? In this country it rains. Unfit for purpose.

I've been carrying mobiles phones around for the last 25 years, and
never once have I had one damaged by rain. Just use a bit of common
sense.

Like what? Conceal it in a waterproof bag? Manufacturers really need to design them properly.

Like putting it in my pocket. It's never been a problem.

Post by Chris in Makati
The payment option is just an additional function it
provides. Saves having to carry a wallet.

I don't, I carry one slim debit card, a tenth of the size of a phone.
And why on earth do you feel the need to make phonecalls when you're out?! Are you a teenager or something?

Most people don't do that stuff.

Yes they do. I see people around me everywhere using their mobiles
while they're outside.

Most people have a mobile phone because it enables them to stay in
touch when they're traveling away from home. And there are millions
who use it for business. If one day you grow up and get a proper job
you'll understand this.

Commander Kinsey

2019-05-21 18:09:24 UTC

Post by Chris in Makati
On Mon, 20 May 2019 21:09:36 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Chris in Makati
On Sun, 19 May 2019 16:27:25 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Chris in Makati
On Sat, 18 May 2019 15:16:00 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Fri, 17 May 2019 21:19:09 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Chris in Makati
On Thu, 16 May 2019 16:09:15 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Thu, 16 May 2019 00:33:56 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

It would have been more hassle to do some kind of bank transfer.

It's a lot easier than searching for coins.

She didn't search, she just took a fiver out of her purse.

Way too much hassle. Handing someone a twenty quid note is way easier. I wouldn't mind if they could take cards, but portable card readers cost too much.

I don't carry any money or cards.

How on earth do you buy things?

Apple Pay, Google Pay etc.

So you have to carry a phone around with you, I just carry a card which is 10 times smaller, and doesn't get upset if it rains or if it falls out of my pocket.

I take the phone around with me anyway. Most people who own mobile
phones do too.

Do you have a magical phone which is immune to water? In this country it rains. Unfit for purpose.

I've been carrying mobiles phones around for the last 25 years, and
never once have I had one damaged by rain. Just use a bit of common
sense.

Like what? Conceal it in a waterproof bag? Manufacturers really need to design them properly.

Like putting it in my pocket. It's never been a problem.

You must have special waterproof pockets.

And what about when you want to use it and it's raining?

Post by Chris in Makati
The payment option is just an additional function it
provides. Saves having to carry a wallet.

I don't, I carry one slim debit card, a tenth of the size of a phone.
And why on earth do you feel the need to make phonecalls when you're out?! Are you a teenager or something?

Most people don't do that stuff.

Yes they do. I see people around me everywhere using their mobiles
while they're outside.

For pointless activities like facebook. I do that shit at home on a real computer.

Post by Chris in Makati
Most people have a mobile phone because it enables them to stay in
touch when they're traveling away from home.

The only reason I can think of for using one is to call the breakdown service when your car fails. But it stays in the car where it's dry.

Post by Chris in Makati
And there are millions
who use it for business. If one day you grow up and get a proper job
you'll understand this.

Most people using a phone for business use it in the office or the van.

Chris in Makati

2019-05-21 21:22:59 UTC

On Tue, 21 May 2019 19:09:24 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Chris in Makati
On Mon, 20 May 2019 21:09:36 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Chris in Makati
On Sun, 19 May 2019 16:27:25 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Chris in Makati
On Sat, 18 May 2019 15:16:00 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Fri, 17 May 2019 21:19:09 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Chris in Makati
On Thu, 16 May 2019 16:09:15 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Thu, 16 May 2019 00:33:56 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

It would have been more hassle to do some kind of bank transfer.

It's a lot easier than searching for coins.

She didn't search, she just took a fiver out of her purse.

Way too much hassle. Handing someone a twenty quid note is way easier. I wouldn't mind if they could take cards, but portable card readers cost too much.

I don't carry any money or cards.

How on earth do you buy things?

Apple Pay, Google Pay etc.

So you have to carry a phone around with you, I just carry a card which is 10 times smaller, and doesn't get upset if it rains or if it falls out of my pocket.

I take the phone around with me anyway. Most people who own mobile
phones do too.

Do you have a magical phone which is immune to water? In this country it rains. Unfit for purpose.

I've been carrying mobiles phones around for the last 25 years, and
never once have I had one damaged by rain. Just use a bit of common
sense.

Like what? Conceal it in a waterproof bag? Manufacturers really need to design them properly.

Like putting it in my pocket. It's never been a problem.

You must have special waterproof pockets.

I'm not in the habit of walking around in torrential rain so heavy
that I get soaked to the skin. If that happens I'll make sure the
phone and any other valuables are protected. Just a little common
sense is needed. Maybe mummy could put it in her handbag for you.

Post by Commander Kinsey
And what about when you want to use it and it's raining?

Then I'd shelter from the rain before using the phone. I can't believe
I'm having this conversation. It seems that small value coins are the
least of the problems you should be worrying about.

Post by Chris in Makati
The payment option is just an additional function it
provides. Saves having to carry a wallet.

I don't, I carry one slim debit card, a tenth of the size of a phone.
And why on earth do you feel the need to make phonecalls when you're out?! Are you a teenager or something?

Most people don't do that stuff.

Yes they do. I see people around me everywhere using their mobiles
while they're outside.

For pointless activities like facebook. I do that shit at home on a real computer.

No. For business use.

Post by Chris in Makati
Most people have a mobile phone because it enables them to stay in
touch when they're traveling away from home.

The only reason I can think of for using one is to call the breakdown service when your car fails. But it stays in the car where it's dry.

Keep thinking, you'll come up with lots of other situations too if you
try.

Post by Chris in Makati
And there are millions
who use it for business. If one day you grow up and get a proper job
you'll understand this.

Most people using a phone for business use it in the office or the van.

In a van, yes, or in any of the many other situations where they're
traveling away from their home or office. See, when you start to
actually think you can work these things out for yourself.

At least you've progressed from "why on earth do you feel the need to
make phonecalls when you're out?". Good boy.

Stephen Wolstenholme

2019-05-22 11:49:06 UTC

On Tue, 21 May 2019 19:09:24 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Commander Kinsey
For pointless activities like facebook. I do that shit at home on a real computer.

In 2004 I was one of the first people on Facebook but I soon gave it
up.

Steve

--
http://www.npsnn.com

Commander Kinsey

2019-05-22 18:40:00 UTC

Post by Chris in Makati
On Tue, 21 May 2019 19:09:24 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Commander Kinsey
For pointless activities like facebook. I do that shit at home on a real computer.

In 2004 I was one of the first people on Facebook but I soon gave it up.

I gave it up as my timeline was just full of friends of friends of friends I've never heard of posting pictures of what they'd eaten in McDonalds.

Some people seem to think you can sell things on it, but I prefer sites designed for selling, like Ebay, Gumtree, Freecycle.

Chris in Makati

2019-05-17 04:51:31 UTC

On Thu, 16 May 2019 00:33:56 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Wed, 15 May 2019 12:09:03 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Chris in Makati
On Mon, 13 May 2019 15:59:43 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Chris in Makati
On Sun, 12 May 2019 16:24:04 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Commander Kinsey
Why can't we get rid of 1p, 2p, 5p coins? They're virtually worthless.

We can get rid of them, but the Treasury has decided not to.
If we did then prices would have to be rounded off to the nearest 5p,
and you can bet your life they'd be rounded UP to the nearest 5p.

So even if (and it's a very big if) Tesco did reduce the price from
47p to 45p and Asda increased it to 50p then the average price of that
product has increased by 0.5p.
You must have forgotten what happened in 1971 with decimalisation.
Prices had to be rounded off, and in almost every case they were
rounded upwards.
Rather than reducing the price to 45p, past experience has shown that
both stores would increase the price to 50p.

Actually £5.99 is less than £6

Not by most people's standards. It's a 6th of a percent, not even enough to trigger a speed camera.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
If you got rid of 1p, 2p and 5p coins they'd just show it as £5.90.

Which would be preferable.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
I can't remember the last time I used cash in a supermarket anyway, so
the issue of getting rid of small coins has got little to do with the
way prices are expressed.

Wrong, the prices are based on the available denominations.

Wrong. The denominations made available are based on the needs of the
market, not the other way around.

That's why a decision has been made NOT to get rid of those coins. The
Treasury has recognised that there is still a demand for them.

I for one certainly don't want my penny sweets costing 10p.

Commander Kinsey

2019-05-17 20:11:36 UTC

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Thu, 16 May 2019 00:33:56 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Wed, 15 May 2019 12:09:03 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Chris in Makati
On Mon, 13 May 2019 15:59:43 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Chris in Makati
On Sun, 12 May 2019 16:24:04 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Why can't we get rid of 1p, 2p, 5p coins? They're virtually wo=

rthless.

Post by Chris in Makati
We can get rid of them, but the Treasury has decided not to.
If we did then prices would have to be rounded off to the neares=

t 5p,

Post by Chris in Makati
and you can bet your life they'd be rounded UP to the nearest 5p=

Rubbish. Prices are governed by competition between businesses. =

If you currently buy something in Asda for 47p, they could make it 50p,=
but Tesco might make it 45p and everyone would go there instead.

Post by Chris in Makati
So even if (and it's a very big if) Tesco did reduce the price fro=

Post by Chris in Makati
47p to 45p and Asda increased it to 50p then the average price of =

that

hat

Post by Chris in Makati
both stores would increase the price to 50p.

A store has to make a certain profit to stay in business. Prices w=

ill be adjusted for that, and competition with others.

Anyway it's worth it to get rid of the monumentally stupid =A35.99 =

shit. It does not look less than =A36, we're not thick!

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
Actually =A35.99 is less than =A36

Not by most people's standards. It's a 6th of a percent, not even en=

ough to trigger a speed camera.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
If you got rid of 1p, 2p and 5p coins they'd just show it as =A35.90=

Which would be preferable.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
I can't remember the last time I used cash in a supermarket anyway, =

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
the issue of getting rid of small coins has got little to do with th=

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
way prices are expressed.

Wrong, the prices are based on the available denominations.

Wrong. The denominations made available are based on the needs of the
market, not the other way around.

Bullshit. When they removed half pence coins, my local shop stopped hal=
fpenny sweets and just sold larger sweets for 1p, or two small ones.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
That's why a decision has been made NOT to get rid of those coins. The=
Treasury has recognised that there is still a demand for them.

You can't get anything useful for less than about 20p. The cheapest thi=
ng I can think of that I can buy in my local supermarket is 18p.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
I for one certainly don't want my penny sweets costing 10p.

Why would you buy 1? Just buy 10 at a time.

Chris in Makati

2019-05-18 02:32:40 UTC

On Fri, 17 May 2019 21:11:36 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Thu, 16 May 2019 00:33:56 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Wed, 15 May 2019 12:09:03 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Chris in Makati
On Mon, 13 May 2019 15:59:43 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Chris in Makati
On Sun, 12 May 2019 16:24:04 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Commander Kinsey
Why can't we get rid of 1p, 2p, 5p coins? They're virtually worthless.

We can get rid of them, but the Treasury has decided not to.
If we did then prices would have to be rounded off to the nearest 5p,
and you can bet your life they'd be rounded UP to the nearest 5p.

So even if (and it's a very big if) Tesco did reduce the price from
47p to 45p and Asda increased it to 50p then the average price of that
product has increased by 0.5p.
You must have forgotten what happened in 1971 with decimalisation.
Prices had to be rounded off, and in almost every case they were
rounded upwards.
Rather than reducing the price to 45p, past experience has shown that
both stores would increase the price to 50p.

Actually £5.99 is less than £6

Not by most people's standards. It's a 6th of a percent, not even enough to trigger a speed camera.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
If you got rid of 1p, 2p and 5p coins they'd just show it as £5.90.

Which would be preferable.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
I can't remember the last time I used cash in a supermarket anyway, so
the issue of getting rid of small coins has got little to do with the
way prices are expressed.

Wrong, the prices are based on the available denominations.

Wrong. The denominations made available are based on the needs of the
market, not the other way around.

Bullshit. When they removed half pence coins, my local shop stopped halfpenny sweets and just sold larger sweets for 1p, or two small ones.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
That's why a decision has been made NOT to get rid of those coins. The
Treasury has recognised that there is still a demand for them.

You can't get anything useful for less than about 20p. The cheapest thing I can think of that I can buy in my local supermarket is 18p.

Tesco Bananas - 14p
Swizzels Matlow Strawberry Refresher Bar
Lidl Kiwi Fruit - 16p
Haribo Maoam Giant Strawberry Stripes - 10p
Swizzels Matlow Chunky Drumstick Lolly - 10p

Those are just a few things I found with a quick look.
.

Norman Wells

2019-05-18 07:59:43 UTC

Post by Chris in Makati
On Fri, 17 May 2019 21:11:36 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

You can't get anything useful for less than about 20p. The cheapest thing I can think of that I can buy in my local supermarket is 18p.

Tesco Bananas - 14p
Swizzels Matlow Strawberry Refresher Bar
Lidl Kiwi Fruit - 16p
Haribo Maoam Giant Strawberry Stripes - 10p
Swizzels Matlow Chunky Drumstick Lolly - 10p
Those are just a few things I found with a quick look.

But think how much better the country's dental health would be if we
abolished all the shrapnel.

Commander Kinsey

2019-05-18 14:11:17 UTC

Post by Chris in Makati
On Fri, 17 May 2019 21:11:36 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Thu, 16 May 2019 00:33:56 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Wed, 15 May 2019 12:09:03 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Chris in Makati
On Mon, 13 May 2019 15:59:43 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Chris in Makati
On Sun, 12 May 2019 16:24:04 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Why can't we get rid of 1p, 2p, 5p coins? They're virtually =

worthless.

Post by Chris in Makati
We can get rid of them, but the Treasury has decided not to.
If we did then prices would have to be rounded off to the near=

est 5p,

Post by Chris in Makati
and you can bet your life they'd be rounded UP to the nearest =

5p.

Rubbish. Prices are governed by competition between businesses=

. If you currently buy something in Asda for 47p, they could make it 50=
p, but Tesco might make it 45p and everyone would go there instead.

Post by Chris in Makati
So even if (and it's a very big if) Tesco did reduce the price f=

rom

Post by Chris in Makati
47p to 45p and Asda increased it to 50p then the average price o=

f that

Post by Chris in Makati
product has increased by 0.5p.
You must have forgotten what happened in 1971 with decimalisatio=

Post by Chris in Makati
Prices had to be rounded off, and in almost every case they were=
rounded upwards.
Rather than reducing the price to 45p, past experience has shown=

that

Post by Chris in Makati
both stores would increase the price to 50p.

A store has to make a certain profit to stay in business. Prices=

will be adjusted for that, and competition with others.

Anyway it's worth it to get rid of the monumentally stupid =A35.9=

9 shit. It does not look less than =A36, we're not thick!

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
Actually =A35.99 is less than =A36

Not by most people's standards. It's a 6th of a percent, not even =

enough to trigger a speed camera.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
If you got rid of 1p, 2p and 5p coins they'd just show it as =A35.=

90.

Which would be preferable.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
I can't remember the last time I used cash in a supermarket anyway=

, so

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
the issue of getting rid of small coins has got little to do with =

the

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
way prices are expressed.

Wrong, the prices are based on the available denominations.

Wrong. The denominations made available are based on the needs of th=

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
market, not the other way around.

Bullshit. When they removed half pence coins, my local shop stopped =

halfpenny sweets and just sold larger sweets for 1p, or two small ones.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
That's why a decision has been made NOT to get rid of those coins. T=

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
Treasury has recognised that there is still a demand for them.

You can't get anything useful for less than about 20p. The cheapest =

thing I can think of that I can buy in my local supermarket is 18p.

Post by Chris in Makati
Tesco Bananas - 14p
Swizzels Matlow Strawberry Refresher Bar
Lidl Kiwi Fruit - 16p
Haribo Maoam Giant Strawberry Stripes - 10p
Swizzels Matlow Chunky Drumstick Lolly - 10p
Those are just a few things I found with a quick look.

Those don't need 1p and 2p coins. As for the 5p coins, just make the si=
ze of the goods different.

Chris in Makati

2019-05-19 14:31:56 UTC

On Sat, 18 May 2019 15:11:17 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Chris in Makati
On Fri, 17 May 2019 21:11:36 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Thu, 16 May 2019 00:33:56 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Wed, 15 May 2019 12:09:03 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Chris in Makati
On Mon, 13 May 2019 15:59:43 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Chris in Makati
On Sun, 12 May 2019 16:24:04 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Commander Kinsey
Why can't we get rid of 1p, 2p, 5p coins? They're virtually worthless.

We can get rid of them, but the Treasury has decided not to.
If we did then prices would have to be rounded off to the nearest 5p,
and you can bet your life they'd be rounded UP to the nearest 5p.

So even if (and it's a very big if) Tesco did reduce the price from
47p to 45p and Asda increased it to 50p then the average price of that
product has increased by 0.5p.
You must have forgotten what happened in 1971 with decimalisation.
Prices had to be rounded off, and in almost every case they were
rounded upwards.
Rather than reducing the price to 45p, past experience has shown that
both stores would increase the price to 50p.

Actually £5.99 is less than £6

Not by most people's standards. It's a 6th of a percent, not even enough to trigger a speed camera.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
If you got rid of 1p, 2p and 5p coins they'd just show it as £5.90.

Which would be preferable.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
I can't remember the last time I used cash in a supermarket anyway, so
the issue of getting rid of small coins has got little to do with the
way prices are expressed.

Wrong, the prices are based on the available denominations.

Wrong. The denominations made available are based on the needs of the
market, not the other way around.

Bullshit. When they removed half pence coins, my local shop stopped halfpenny sweets and just sold larger sweets for 1p, or two small ones.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
That's why a decision has been made NOT to get rid of those coins. The
Treasury has recognised that there is still a demand for them.

You can't get anything useful for less than about 20p. The cheapest thing I can think of that I can buy in my local supermarket is 18p.

Tesco Bananas - 14p
Swizzels Matlow Strawberry Refresher Bar
Lidl Kiwi Fruit - 16p
Haribo Maoam Giant Strawberry Stripes - 10p
Swizzels Matlow Chunky Drumstick Lolly - 10p
Those are just a few things I found with a quick look.

Those don't need 1p and 2p coins. As for the 5p coins, just make the size of the goods different.

You can't seem to grasp that the coins and notes in circulation are
based on what it is believed the public want.

The decision has been made. They're keeping those coins. Accept it and
move on.

Commander Kinsey

2019-05-19 15:26:10 UTC

Post by Chris in Makati
On Sat, 18 May 2019 15:11:17 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Chris in Makati
On Fri, 17 May 2019 21:11:36 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Thu, 16 May 2019 00:33:56 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Wed, 15 May 2019 12:09:03 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Chris in Makati
On Mon, 13 May 2019 15:59:43 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Chris in Makati
On Sun, 12 May 2019 16:24:04 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Why can't we get rid of 1p, 2p, 5p coins? They're virtuall=

y worthless.

Post by Chris in Makati
We can get rid of them, but the Treasury has decided not to.=
If we did then prices would have to be rounded off to the ne=

arest 5p,

Post by Chris in Makati
and you can bet your life they'd be rounded UP to the neares=

t 5p.

Rubbish. Prices are governed by competition between business=

es. If you currently buy something in Asda for 47p, they could make it =
50p, but Tesco might make it 45p and everyone would go there instead.

Post by Chris in Makati
So even if (and it's a very big if) Tesco did reduce the price=

from

Post by Chris in Makati
47p to 45p and Asda increased it to 50p then the average price=

of that

Post by Chris in Makati
product has increased by 0.5p.
You must have forgotten what happened in 1971 with decimalisat=

ion.

Post by Chris in Makati
Prices had to be rounded off, and in almost every case they we=

Post by Chris in Makati
rounded upwards.
Rather than reducing the price to 45p, past experience has sho=

wn that

Post by Chris in Makati
both stores would increase the price to 50p.

A store has to make a certain profit to stay in business. Pric=

es will be adjusted for that, and competition with others.

Anyway it's worth it to get rid of the monumentally stupid =A35=

.99 shit. It does not look less than =A36, we're not thick!

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
Actually =A35.99 is less than =A36

Not by most people's standards. It's a 6th of a percent, not eve=

n enough to trigger a speed camera.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
If you got rid of 1p, 2p and 5p coins they'd just show it as =A3=

5.90.

Which would be preferable.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
I can't remember the last time I used cash in a supermarket anyw=

ay, so

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
the issue of getting rid of small coins has got little to do wit=

h the

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
way prices are expressed.

Wrong, the prices are based on the available denominations.

Wrong. The denominations made available are based on the needs of =

the

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
market, not the other way around.

Bullshit. When they removed half pence coins, my local shop stoppe=

d halfpenny sweets and just sold larger sweets for 1p, or two small ones=
.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
That's why a decision has been made NOT to get rid of those coins.=

The

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
Treasury has recognised that there is still a demand for them.

You can't get anything useful for less than about 20p. The cheapes=

t thing I can think of that I can buy in my local supermarket is 18p.

Those don't need 1p and 2p coins. As for the 5p coins, just make the=

size of the goods different.

Post by Chris in Makati
You can't seem to grasp that the coins and notes in circulation are
based on what it is believed the public want.

What an absolutely insane thing to say. The government never ever does =
what the public wants.

Post by Chris in Makati
The decision has been made. They're keeping those coins. Accept it and=
move on.

Why should I accept gross stupidity?

Chris in Makati

2019-05-20 00:32:49 UTC

On Sun, 19 May 2019 16:26:10 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Chris in Makati
On Sat, 18 May 2019 15:11:17 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Chris in Makati
On Fri, 17 May 2019 21:11:36 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Thu, 16 May 2019 00:33:56 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Wed, 15 May 2019 12:09:03 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Chris in Makati
On Mon, 13 May 2019 15:59:43 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Chris in Makati
On Sun, 12 May 2019 16:24:04 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Commander Kinsey
Why can't we get rid of 1p, 2p, 5p coins? They're virtually worthless.

We can get rid of them, but the Treasury has decided not to.
If we did then prices would have to be rounded off to the nearest 5p,
and you can bet your life they'd be rounded UP to the nearest 5p.

So even if (and it's a very big if) Tesco did reduce the price from
47p to 45p and Asda increased it to 50p then the average price of that
product has increased by 0.5p.
You must have forgotten what happened in 1971 with decimalisation.
Prices had to be rounded off, and in almost every case they were
rounded upwards.
Rather than reducing the price to 45p, past experience has shown that
both stores would increase the price to 50p.

Actually £5.99 is less than £6

Not by most people's standards. It's a 6th of a percent, not even enough to trigger a speed camera.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
If you got rid of 1p, 2p and 5p coins they'd just show it as £5.90.

Which would be preferable.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
I can't remember the last time I used cash in a supermarket anyway, so
the issue of getting rid of small coins has got little to do with the
way prices are expressed.

Wrong, the prices are based on the available denominations.

Wrong. The denominations made available are based on the needs of the
market, not the other way around.

Bullshit. When they removed half pence coins, my local shop stopped halfpenny sweets and just sold larger sweets for 1p, or two small ones.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
That's why a decision has been made NOT to get rid of those coins. The
Treasury has recognised that there is still a demand for them.

You can't get anything useful for less than about 20p. The cheapest thing I can think of that I can buy in my local supermarket is 18p.

Tesco Bananas - 14p
Swizzels Matlow Strawberry Refresher Bar
Lidl Kiwi Fruit - 16p
Haribo Maoam Giant Strawberry Stripes - 10p
Swizzels Matlow Chunky Drumstick Lolly - 10p
Those are just a few things I found with a quick look.

Those don't need 1p and 2p coins. As for the 5p coins, just make the size of the goods different.

You can't seem to grasp that the coins and notes in circulation are
based on what it is believed the public want.

What an absolutely insane thing to say. The government never ever does what the public wants.

Post by Chris in Makati
The decision has been made. They're keeping those coins. Accept it and
move on.

Why should I accept gross stupidity?

Because the decision has been made. What are you going to do about it?

Commander Kinsey

2019-05-20 20:10:49 UTC

Post by Chris in Makati
On Sun, 19 May 2019 16:26:10 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Chris in Makati
On Sat, 18 May 2019 15:11:17 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Chris in Makati
On Fri, 17 May 2019 21:11:36 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Thu, 16 May 2019 00:33:56 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Wed, 15 May 2019 12:09:03 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Chris in Makati
On Mon, 13 May 2019 15:59:43 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Post by Chris in Makati
On Sun, 12 May 2019 16:24:04 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"

Why can't we get rid of 1p, 2p, 5p coins? They're virtua=

lly worthless.

Post by Chris in Makati
We can get rid of them, but the Treasury has decided not t=

Post by Chris in Makati
If we did then prices would have to be rounded off to the =

nearest 5p,

Post by Chris in Makati
and you can bet your life they'd be rounded UP to the near=

est 5p.

Rubbish. Prices are governed by competition between busine=

sses. If you currently buy something in Asda for 47p, they could make i=
t 50p, but Tesco might make it 45p and everyone would go there instead.

Post by Chris in Makati
So even if (and it's a very big if) Tesco did reduce the pri=

ce from

Post by Chris in Makati
47p to 45p and Asda increased it to 50p then the average pri=

ce of that

Post by Chris in Makati
product has increased by 0.5p.
You must have forgotten what happened in 1971 with decimalis=

ation.

Post by Chris in Makati
Prices had to be rounded off, and in almost every case they =

were

Post by Chris in Makati
rounded upwards.
Rather than reducing the price to 45p, past experience has s=

hown that

Post by Chris in Makati
both stores would increase the price to 50p.

A store has to make a certain profit to stay in business. Pr=

ices will be adjusted for that, and competition with others.

Anyway it's worth it to get rid of the monumentally stupid =A3=

5.99 shit. It does not look less than =A36, we're not thick!

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
Actually =A35.99 is less than =A36

Not by most people's standards. It's a 6th of a percent, not e=

ven enough to trigger a speed camera.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
If you got rid of 1p, 2p and 5p coins they'd just show it as =A3=

5.90.

Which would be preferable.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
I can't remember the last time I used cash in a supermarket an=

yway, so

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
the issue of getting rid of small coins has got little to do w=

ith the

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
way prices are expressed.

Wrong, the prices are based on the available denominations.

Wrong. The denominations made available are based on the needs o=

f the

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
market, not the other way around.

Bullshit. When they removed half pence coins, my local shop stop=

ped halfpenny sweets and just sold larger sweets for 1p, or two small on=
es.

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
That's why a decision has been made NOT to get rid of those coin=

s. The

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
Treasury has recognised that there is still a demand for them.

You can't get anything useful for less than about 20p. The cheap=

est thing I can think of that I can buy in my local supermarket is 18p.

Those don't need 1p and 2p coins. As for the 5p coins, just make t=

he size of the goods different.

Post by Chris in Makati
You can't seem to grasp that the coins and notes in circulation are
based on what it is believed the public want.

What an absolutely insane thing to say. The government never ever do=

es what the public wants.

Post by Chris in Makati
The decision has been made. They're keeping those coins. Accept it a=

Post by Chris in Makati
move on.

Why should I accept gross stupidity?

Because the decision has been made. What are you going to do about it?=

Point out how stupid they are.

Chris in Makati

2019-05-21 00:36:33 UTC