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Pusnet et al must include line rental when advertising
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7
2017-11-15 18:17:01 UTC
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Pusnet et al must include line rental when advertising
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https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2017/11/asa-forces-uk-business-isps-include-line-rental-costs-broadband.html

Quuaaaackkkhhh....!!!

So how many *fscking* customers have been robbed of a fair deal
from buying pure fibre by krone tool master baiting
telecum trolls hiding line rental fees from customers?

A lot!!

Empires built on sand never last.

Fibre is immensely cheaper to install and uses
far less cable duct space than copper.

And yet by hiding the line cost of this copper, cumpanies
Bhtee, pusnet, openroach, offconn with revolving doors
et all have all colluded
to generate unfair competition against fibre companies
who charge in total less than line rental + broadband.

Pure fibre companies don't have noise problems,
and don't have high equipment costs because a $14 SFP
module is all that is needed to inject fibre signals
into a router from where they are managed
while ADSL requires hundreds of pounds per *fscking* customer
of equipment costs before it can be installed.

The City has been robbed of good telecom and low costs.
The share price of cumpanies like Bhtee are grossly
inflated because in terms of internet packets processed v share
price, the value for money is something like 1:20th of where
it should be. At this moment, the scrap value of Bhtee openroach copper is not
enough to pay for the potential shareholder losses.
7
2017-11-15 18:37:10 UTC
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Post by 7
Pusnet et al must include line rental when advertising
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https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2017/11/asa-forces-uk-business-isps-include-line-rental-costs-broadband.html
Quuaaaackkkhhh....!!!
No one is listening to you
Then read the original pooost and weep:

Pusnet et al must include line rental when advertising
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https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2017/11/asa-forces-uk-business-isps-include-line-rental-costs-broadband.html

Quuaaaackkkhhh....!!!

So how many *fscking* customers have been robbed of a fair deal
from buying pure fibre by krone tool master baiting
telecum trolls hiding line rental fees from customers?

A lot!!

Empires built on sand never last.

Fibre is immensely cheaper to install and uses
far less cable duct space than copper.

And yet by hiding the line cost of this copper, cumpanies
Bhtee, pusnet, openroach, offconn with revolving doors
et all have all colluded
to generate unfair competition against fibre companies
who charge in total less than line rental + broadband.

Pure fibre companies don't have noise problems,
and don't have high equipment costs because a $14 SFP
module is all that is needed to inject fibre signals
into a router from where they are managed
while ADSL requires hundreds of pounds per *fscking* customer
of equipment costs before it can be installed.

The City has been robbed of good telecom and low costs.
The share price of cumpanies like Bhtee are grossly
inflated because in terms of internet packets processed v share
price, the value for money is something like 1:20th of where
it should be. At this moment, the scrap value of Bhtee openroach copper is not
enough to pay for the potential shareholder losses.
tim...
2017-11-15 21:01:00 UTC
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Pusnet et al must include line rental when advertising
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https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2017/11/asa-forces-uk-business-isps-include-line-rental-costs-broadband.html
Quuaaaackkkhhh....!!!
So how many *fscking* customers have been robbed of a fair deal
from buying pure fibre by krone tool master baiting
telecum trolls hiding line rental fees from customers?
A lot!!
Empires built on sand never last.
Fibre is immensely cheaper to install and uses
far less cable duct space than copper.
And yet by hiding the line cost of this copper, cumpanies
Bhtee, pusnet, openroach, offconn with revolving doors
et all have all colluded
to generate unfair competition against fibre companies
who charge in total less than line rental + broadband.
and where are these fibre companies that will sell you a BB line with no
phone line?

tim
7
2017-11-15 22:14:08 UTC
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Post by tim...
and where are these fibre companies that will sell you a BB line with no
phone line?
All the pure fibre companies and not the fake copper cumpanies that
pretend to sell fibre - subject of a huge ASA complaint.



Why duck fscking should be made compulsory for Bhtee krone tool master
baiters
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"If you can get traditional Fibre or (FTTC),
it's very unlikely you will be able to get FTTP"

Quaaackkkhhhhhh....!!!

In short krone tool master baitors have no plans
to eliminate copper from the streets and put in
cheaper fibre.

These Bhtee stoopid fscks have already been broken
up for their stupidity but their stupid mentality
continues to infect every level of telecom services
and drag UK to the bottom of the pile with them.

Example Paris gets gigabit fibre for all its 2 million
residents while Bhtee wahahankers hold meetings
and come out with London and its 7 million inhabitants
(more than 10% of the population) doesn't need it.

Then the stuuuppidd Bhtee fcks fail to mention it to
the IoD which comes out with London and the UK
needs 10gbit internet:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35681475

Bhtee managers in hiding and won't return calls
about this. And neither with offconn - too scared
to go public with their utter failure.

The rest of UK has gigabit symmetric
fibre internet paying under
£50 a month for about 3% of the population

And its 100x cheaper to install it than copper wires
because the fibres don't carry electricity and don't
need protective ducts - just a 10cm wide trench to
lay down a tube to carry the fibre.

All the connecting equipment cheaper as well. And if
you make your own FPGA routers, then the entire
thing costs a fraction of the current internet infrastructure
and some 1000x less power to run the network.



ITU calls for 40Gbit Internet and also 10Gbit symmetric fibre to the home
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http://tech.slashdot.org/story/16/03/02/1515207/itu-give-consent-to-new-40gbps-fiber-to-the-home-broadband-standard


Bhtee are still working on their dialop POTs.

Need to break up Bhtee and hand the infrastructure to an independent
company that can supply the fibres for all those who know what
40Gbit service is and 10Gbit symmetric service is and know how
to make money with it.


Bhtee VM accidentally leak their FTTP equipment prices
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Not.

So I'm setting up BhteeVM_Leeks_WebShite.com web with retail price
list for these items (wholesale cheaper):

64 way splitter $85 - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/SC-1X64-PLC-Singlemode-Fiber-Optical-splitter-FTTH-PLC-Steel-tube-type-FBT-PLC-optical-fiber/32476975506.html

fibre - --$375/km https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Fiber-Cable-Multimode-2core-Indoor-fiber-optic-cable-Duplex-Zipcord-PCV-jacket-3-0mm-Orange/793795646.html

cleaver -$62- https://www.aliexpress.com/item/9-In-1-Fiber-Optic-FTTH-Tool-Kit-with-FC-6S-Fiber-Cleaver-and-Optical-Power/32647289225.html

sleeves - 5 cents - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1000Pcs-OD2-4-45mm-Fiber-Optic-Fusion-Splice-Protection-Sleeves-Fiber-Cable-Protector-Heat-Shrink-Tube/32732857639.html

gigabit transceiver: 20km/1000BASE-LX - $17
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/SFP-Fiber-Optic-Transceiver-1000BASE-LX-SFP-MINI-GBIC-modules-Compatible-for-CISCO-glc-lh-sm/710717277.html

The best way to build routers is to hire FPGA engineers and build the
routers yourself from FPGA
and scale up rapidly
by building copies of own boards.

Otherwise have to purchase say a Cisco router upward £30,000.
Instead pay FPGA engineer £60,000 for 6 months to create as many FPGA boards
as you need for routers.

Examples of what can be done:
https://www.xes-inc.com/products/fpgas/xpedite2402/
https://www.broadcom.com/optical_fpga

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